313 - "We don't see a recession in 2025" Tariffs and the Economy with Lauren Saidel-Baker from ITR Economics
Lauren Saidel-Baker, an economist at ITR Economics, joins Adam Peek to discuss the impact of tariffs on the U.S. economy and the packaging industry. She argues that while tariffs create uncertainty and inflationary pressure, they are not the primary driver of current onshoring trends, which are fueled by labor costs and energy prices. Saidel-Baker predicts no recession in 2025 due to strong consumer spending, but warns of a potential depression around 2030 driven by demographic shifts and government debt.