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Surviving the Dot-Com Bust

Oxide and Friends · 24 May 2022 · 1h 31m · Episode 15

What this episode covers

Bryan Cantrill, Adam Leventhal, and other Oxide Computer Company engineers discuss the dynamics of the dot-com bust, using historical examples like Sun Microsystems, boo.com, and Trilogy to draw parallels with the current tech environment. They analyze how 'picks and shovels' companies like Sun survived by focusing on cost-efficiency during downturns, while speculative ventures like boo.com and AllAdvantage failed due to a lack of viable revenue models. The group also examines the human impact of these busts, including the 'Delionaire' phenomenon at Dell and the psychological shift from greed to survival, offering advice on how startups like Oxide can navigate potential economic contractions by emphasizing value and cost savings for customers.

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early-stage companies

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Companies
Oxide Computer Company, Sun Microsystems, boo.com, Trilogy, Dell, AllAdvantage, Excite@Home, garden.com
Also
fuckedcompany.com, ShoutCloud

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