Episode 109: Unpacking the Nuances of Deep Seek with Austin Lyons

The Circuit · 16 Mar 2025 · 48m · Episode 110

What this episode covers

Austin Lyons, founder of ChipStrat, joins Jay Goldberg to analyze Deep Seek, a self-funded AI lab from China that emerged from the quantitative hedge fund High Flyer. They discuss Deep Seek's technical innovations, including its efficient Mixture of Experts (MoE) architecture and the R1 reasoning model, which demonstrated that high-performance AI is possible despite US chip export controls limiting access to NVIDIA H100s. The conversation explores how Deep Seek's training efficiency and open-weight models have shifted the industry focus from pure pre-training scaling to inference optimization and post-training techniques.

Mentioned

Companies
Deep Seek, High Flyer, NVIDIA, OpenAI, ChipStrat, Meta, Google, Anthropic
Products
ChatGPT, Llama, Mixtral, Gemini, Copilot
Chips
H100, H800

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