Episode 59: Discussing All Things AI Accelerators With Austin Lyons

The Circuit · 18 Mar 2024 · 49m · Episode 60

What this episode covers

Austin Lyons, a product manager at Blue River Technology (acquired by John Deere) and author of ChipStrat, joins Ben Bajarin and Jay Goldberg to analyze the AI accelerator market. They discuss the spectrum of AI accelerators, arguing that while Nvidia dominates training due to its CUDA ecosystem, startups have an opportunity in inference by targeting specific workloads to reduce 'GPU bloat.' The conversation highlights the failure of previous accelerator startups due to software porting challenges and the high switching costs for enterprises, while noting Grok's success in providing low-latency inference as a service. Finally, they debate the sustainability of custom chip efforts by hyperscalers like Amazon and Google, questioning whether internal silicon can keep pace with merchant vendors like Nvidia and AMD.

Mentioned

Companies
Blue River Technology, John Deere, Intel, Nvidia, Grok, Amazon, AWS, Google, Meta, Apple, AMD, Vivo, IBM, Altera, Xilinx
Products
CN spray technology, H100, North Pole
Also
CUDA, ChipStrat

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