# 070 - I Have a DediProblem

- Show: [Unnamed Reverse Engineering Podcast](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/unnamed-reverse-engineering-podcast)
- Published: 2024-06-09
- Length: 1h 56m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/unnamed-reverse-engineering-podcast/2024-06-09-070-i-have-a-dediproblem
- Listen: https://reverseengineering.libsyn.com/070-i-have-a-dediproblem

## Summary

Jesse Michael and Mickey Shkatov from Eclypsium discuss the intricacies of BIOS and UEFI reverse engineering, tracing their careers from Intel to their current startup. They detail specific research projects, including an exploit of a Nissan Leaf's telematics unit and a DMA attack on Intel WiGig, while explaining the technical evolution from legacy BIOS to UEFI. The conversation covers practical tools for hardware debugging, such as DediProg programmers and Intel DCI, and explores the emerging scene of UEFI-based game cheating and System Management Mode vulnerabilities.

## Chapters

- [0:30](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/unnamed-reverse-engineering-podcast/2024-06-09-070-i-have-a-dediproblem#t=30) Introduction and Guest Backgrounds
- [7:59](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/unnamed-reverse-engineering-podcast/2024-06-09-070-i-have-a-dediproblem#t=479) Nissan Leaf and WiGig Security Research
- [16:21](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/unnamed-reverse-engineering-podcast/2024-06-09-070-i-have-a-dediproblem#t=981) BIOS vs UEFI Architecture and Boot Process
- [38:12](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/unnamed-reverse-engineering-podcast/2024-06-09-070-i-have-a-dediproblem#t=2292) Hardware Debugging Tools and Methods
- [43:27](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/unnamed-reverse-engineering-podcast/2024-06-09-070-i-have-a-dediproblem#t=2607) UEFI Exploitation and Damn Vulnerable UEFI
- [59:03](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/unnamed-reverse-engineering-podcast/2024-06-09-070-i-have-a-dediproblem#t=3543) UEFI Game Cheating and System Management Mode
- [1:27:08](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/unnamed-reverse-engineering-podcast/2024-06-09-070-i-have-a-dediproblem#t=5228) Intel Management Engine and Coreboot
- [1:37:10](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/unnamed-reverse-engineering-podcast/2024-06-09-070-i-have-a-dediproblem#t=5830) Favorite Tools and Closing

## Topics

- [Embedded firmware](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/embedded-firmware)
- [Debugging & failure analysis](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/debugging-and-failure-analysis)
- [Security & privacy](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/security-and-privacy)
- [EDA & CAD tools](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/eda-and-cad-tools)

## Most relevant to

large enterprises, early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Eclypsium (company)
- Intel (company)
- Nissan Leaf (product)
- DediProg SF100 (tool)
- UEFITool (tool)
- chipsec (tool)
- QEMU (tool)
- VMware Workstation (tool)
- Damn Vulnerable UEFI (product)
- Binary Ninja (tool)
- IDA (tool)
- Coreboot (product)
- Intel Management Engine (chip)
- me_cleaner (tool)
- platomav (other)

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