# 127: Replace the X with an A

- Show: [Thoroughly Considered](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered)
- Published: 2025-10-16
- Length: 48m
- Episode: 127
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2025-10-16-127-replace-the-x-with-an-a
- Listen: http://relay.fm/tc/127

## Summary

Dan Provost and Myke Hurley discuss the new iPhone lineup, with Hurley explaining his decision to buy an iPhone 17 Pro over the iPhone Air due to size and grip concerns, and his choice of a Pataka case. They critique Apple's removal of 3D Touch and the usability of the new Camera Control button, while also exploring the future of smartphone photography, including mechanical lenses and AI upscaling. The episode concludes with a brief look at Studio Neat's new 'Neat Patch' product.

## Chapters

- [0:07](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2025-10-16-127-replace-the-x-with-an-a#t=7) Introduction and iPhone Air vs. Pro Decision
- [3:06](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2025-10-16-127-replace-the-x-with-an-a#t=186) iPhone 17 Pro Review and Case Selection
- [21:12](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2025-10-16-127-replace-the-x-with-an-a#t=1272) Critique of 3D Touch Removal and Camera Control
- [37:21](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2025-10-16-127-replace-the-x-with-an-a#t=2241) Future of Smartphone Cameras: Mechanical Lenses and AI
- [35:04](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2025-10-16-127-replace-the-x-with-an-a#t=2104) Studio Neat Neat Patch and Outro

## Topics

- [Industrial & consumer product design](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/industrial-design)
- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)
- [Materials & manufacturing processes](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/materials-and-processes)
- [Direct-to-consumer & e-commerce](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/direct-to-consumer)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- iPhone Air (product)
- iPhone 17 Pro (product)
- Pataka (product)
- Studio Neat (company)
- Neat Patch (product)
- Samsung (company)
- Vision Pro (product)

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