# 125: Pikachu Phone Cases

- Show: [Thoroughly Considered](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered)
- Published: 2025-07-08
- Length: 1h 15m
- Episode: 125
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2025-07-08-125-pikachu-phone-cases
- Listen: http://relay.fm/tc/125

## Summary

Dan Provost and Tom Gerhardt of Studio Neat discuss the return of their Glif camera mount, detailing the complex injection molding process and the challenges of US-based manufacturing. They analyze the Seneca mechanical keyboard by Norbauer, contrasting its unlimited-budget craftsmanship with Studio Neat's constraint-driven design philosophy. The hosts also critique Apple's recent 'Liquid Glass' UI announcement and debate the future of merging iOS and macOS platforms into a unified ecosystem.

## Chapters

- [0:07](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2025-07-08-125-pikachu-phone-cases#t=7) Introduction: Studio Neat and the Glif Return
- [1:09](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2025-07-08-125-pikachu-phone-cases#t=69) Glif Manufacturing: Injection Molding and US Suppliers
- [8:52](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2025-07-08-125-pikachu-phone-cases#t=532) The Seneca Keyboard: Norbauer and Unlimited Budget Design
- [19:22](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2025-07-08-125-pikachu-phone-cases#t=1162) Design Constraints vs. Luxury: Studio Neat vs. Norbauer
- [27:17](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2025-07-08-125-pikachu-phone-cases#t=1637) Jony Ive, OpenAI, and the Future of Hardware
- [35:20](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2025-07-08-125-pikachu-phone-cases#t=2120) Critique of Apple's Liquid Glass and WWDC
- [1:02:10](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2025-07-08-125-pikachu-phone-cases#t=3730) Merging iOS and macOS: The Unified OS Prediction

## Topics

- [Industrial & consumer product design](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/industrial-design)
- [Materials & manufacturing processes](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/materials-and-processes)
- [Direct-to-consumer & e-commerce](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/direct-to-consumer)
- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)
- [Leadership, teams & culture](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/leadership-and-culture)
- [Policy, trade & tariffs](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/policy-trade-and-tariffs)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Studio Neat (company)
- Glif (product)
- Norbauer (company)
- Seneca (product)
- Apple (company)
- OpenAI (company)
- ChatGPT (product)
- Liquid Glass (product)
- Humane (product)
- Vision Pro (product)

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