# 91: This is Going Great So Far I Think

- Show: [Thoroughly Considered](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered)
- Published: 2022-12-15
- Length: 1h 00m
- Episode: 91
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2022-12-15-91-this-is-going-great-so-far-i-think
- Listen: http://relay.fm/tc/91

## Summary

Hosts Tom Gerhardt and Dan Provost of Studio Neat discuss holiday gift wrapping logistics and a knife sharpening service before shifting to a 'Tech Corner' segment. They analyze a video critiquing Patagonia's billionaire founder, debate the future of AI-generated content versus human expression, and argue over whether Apple will merge iOS and macOS into a single platform.

## Chapters

- [0:31](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2022-12-15-91-this-is-going-great-so-far-i-think#t=31) Holiday Gift Wrapping and Etiquette
- [8:31](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2022-12-15-91-this-is-going-great-so-far-i-think#t=511) Follow-up: Knife Sharpening Service
- [12:43](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2022-12-15-91-this-is-going-great-so-far-i-think#t=763) Critique of Patagonia and Billionaire Ethics
- [15:59](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2022-12-15-91-this-is-going-great-so-far-i-think#t=959) Product Design as Empathy and AI Content
- [30:37](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2022-12-15-91-this-is-going-great-so-far-i-think#t=1837) Apple iOS and macOS Platform Merger Debate

## Topics

- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)
- [Industrial & consumer product design](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/industrial-design)
- [Policy, trade & tariffs](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/policy-trade-and-tariffs)
- [Growth, exits & acquisitions](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/growth-exits-and-acquisitions)
- [Packaging design](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/packaging-design)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Studio Neat (company)
- Patagonia (company)
- Apple (company)
- iOS (other)
- macOS (other)
- iPadOS (other)
- SwiftUI (tool)
- UIKit (tool)
- Relay FM (company)

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