# 83: The Last Detail with Adam Lisagor

- Show: [Thoroughly Considered](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered)
- Published: 2022-08-02
- Length: 55m
- Episode: 83
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2022-08-02-83-the-last-detail-with-adam-lisagor
- Listen: http://relay.fm/tc/83

## Summary

Adam Lisagor, founder of Sandwich Video, discusses the Sonos Move, a portable speaker that integrates seamlessly into the Sonos ecosystem while offering unique mobility features. The conversation highlights the device's industrial design, particularly its durable handle and seamless metal grill, as well as its replaceable battery kit which signals long-term product intent. Lisagor and the hosts critique the user interface, specifically the non-intuitive volume buttons and complex Wi-Fi switching, while praising the local voice control and overall build quality.

## Chapters

- [0:07](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2022-08-02-83-the-last-detail-with-adam-lisagor#t=7) Introduction: Adam Lisagor and the Sonos Move
- [2:11](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2022-08-02-83-the-last-detail-with-adam-lisagor#t=131) Sonos Ecosystem History and Product Selection
- [8:33](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2022-08-02-83-the-last-detail-with-adam-lisagor#t=513) Portability, Handle Design, and Outdoor Use
- [19:13](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2022-08-02-83-the-last-detail-with-adam-lisagor#t=1153) Build Quality, Replaceable Battery, and Longevity
- [25:41](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2022-08-02-83-the-last-detail-with-adam-lisagor#t=1541) UI Nitpicks: Volume Buttons and Swipe Gestures
- [33:09](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2022-08-02-83-the-last-detail-with-adam-lisagor#t=1989) Software Pain Points: Wi-Fi Switching and Account Logic
- [43:56](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2022-08-02-83-the-last-detail-with-adam-lisagor#t=2636) Dieter Rams Principles: Understandable and Lasting Design

## Topics

- [Industrial & consumer product design](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/industrial-design)
- [Connected products & IoT](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/connected-products-and-iot)
- [Materials & manufacturing processes](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/materials-and-processes)
- [Debugging & failure analysis](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/debugging-and-failure-analysis)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Sonos (company)
- Sonos Move (product)
- Sandwich Video (company)
- Play 5 (product)
- Play 3 (product)
- Play 1 (product)
- Jawbone (company)
- Jambox (product)
- Sonos One (product)
- Sonos Amp (product)
- Casper (company)
- Ember Mug (product)
- Alexa (other)
- HomePod (product)
- AirPlay 2 (other)

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