# 66: Apple Hardware Computers

- Show: [Thoroughly Considered](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered)
- Published: 2021-02-10
- Length: 1h 01m
- Episode: 66
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2021-02-10-66-apple-hardware-computers
- Listen: http://relay.fm/tc/66

## Summary

Myke Curley, Tom Gerhardt, and Dan Provost of Studio Neat discuss predictions for Apple's transition to Apple Silicon and its impact on industrial design, specifically debating whether the MacBook Air and Pro will see significant form factor changes. The hosts argue extensively about the future convergence of macOS and iPadOS, with Tom Gerhardt predicting a unified device that splits into a tablet and keyboard, while Dan Provost and Myke Curley remain skeptical about merging the distinct user interface paradigms. They also speculate on the upcoming mixed reality headset, with Curley viewing it as a developer kit for future AR glasses and Gerhardt arguing Apple will keep such products secret until they are ready for mass market release.

## Chapters

- [0:08](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2021-02-10-66-apple-hardware-computers#t=8) Introduction: Apple Silicon Predictions
- [3:45](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2021-02-10-66-apple-hardware-computers#t=225) Industrial Design and Thermal Constraints
- [9:39](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2021-02-10-66-apple-hardware-computers#t=579) Merging iPad and MacBook Hardware
- [12:01](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2021-02-10-66-apple-hardware-computers#t=721) macOS vs iPadOS Interface Paradigms
- [24:27](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2021-02-10-66-apple-hardware-computers#t=1467) Durability of Window-Based UI
- [33:56](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2021-02-10-66-apple-hardware-computers#t=2036) Mixed Reality Headset Speculation
- [41:49](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2021-02-10-66-apple-hardware-computers#t=2509) Touchscreen on Mac Debate
- [50:38](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2021-02-10-66-apple-hardware-computers#t=3038) Personal Workflow: iPad vs Mac

## Topics

- [Industrial & consumer product design](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/industrial-design)
- [Connected products & IoT](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/connected-products-and-iot)
- [Microcontrollers & dev platforms](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/microcontrollers-and-platforms)
- [Direct-to-consumer & e-commerce](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/direct-to-consumer)
- [Policy, trade & tariffs](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/policy-trade-and-tariffs)

## Most relevant to

large enterprises

## Mentioned

- Apple (company)
- Studio Neat (company)
- MacBook Air (product)
- MacBook Pro (product)
- iPad Pro (product)
- Mac Pro (product)
- iMac (product)
- M1 (chip)
- Big Sur (other)
- macOS (other)
- iPadOS (other)
- iOS (other)

## Related episodes from other shows

- [Episode 94: Chatting Apple Silicon with Apple's Tim Millet and Tom Boger](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-circuit/2024-11-18-episode-94-chatting-apple-silicon-with-apples-tim-millet-and-tom-boger) (The Circuit)
- [Episode 22: Talking Apple Vision Pro](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-circuit/2023-06-08-episode-22-talking-apple-vision-pro) (The Circuit)
- [Episode 72: Apple Intelligence and Closed Loop Private Computing](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-circuit/2024-06-17-episode-72-apple-intelligence-and-closed-loop-private-computing) (The Circuit)
- [Predictions 2026!!](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2026-01-08-predictions-2026) (Oxide and Friends)
- [NeXT, Objective-C, and contrasting histories](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2021-07-06-next-objective-c-and-contrasting-histories) (Oxide and Friends)

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