# 38: Raw Copper Patina

- Show: [Thoroughly Considered](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered)
- Published: 2018-05-09
- Length: 39m
- Episode: 38
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2018-05-09-38-raw-copper-patina
- Listen: http://relay.fm/tc/38

## Summary

Tom Gerhardt and Dan Provost of Studio Neat discuss the post-Kickstarter phase of their Mark One pen campaign, focusing on the transition from funding to production planning. They detail a significant material upgrade, switching the pen's knock to titanium and utilizing Physical Vapor Deposition (PVD) to achieve a durable, corrosion-resistant copper finish. The founders also explain their strategic decision to source manufacturing from China via MFG.com to save costs and gain speed, despite previous negative experiences with overseas suppliers.

## Chapters

- [0:08](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2018-05-09-38-raw-copper-patina#t=8) Introduction: Studio Neat and Mark One Kickstarter Results
- [3:55](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2018-05-09-38-raw-copper-patina#t=235) Post-Campaign Production Planning and Assembly Strategy
- [12:57](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2018-05-09-38-raw-copper-patina#t=777) Solving the Copper Patina Problem with PVD and Titanium
- [25:45](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2018-05-09-38-raw-copper-patina#t=1545) Sourcing Manufacturing in China via MFG.com
- [33:05](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2018-05-09-38-raw-copper-patina#t=1985) Quality Control Challenges and Supplier Communication

## Topics

- [Materials & manufacturing processes](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/materials-and-processes)
- [Manufacturing partners & offshoring](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/manufacturing-partners)
- [Crowdfunding & preorders](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/crowdfunding)
- [Quality & yield](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/quality-and-yield)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Studio Neat (company)
- Mark One (product)
- Glyph (product)
- Cosmonaut (product)
- MFG.com (other)

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