# 34: Goals and Plans for 2018

- Show: [Thoroughly Considered](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered)
- Published: 2018-01-24
- Length: 48m
- Episode: 34
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2018-01-24-34-goals-and-plans-for-2018
- Listen: http://relay.fm/tc/34

## Summary

Dan Provost and Tom Gerhardt of Studio Neat discuss their 2018 goals, including a new Kickstarter product and structural changes to their workflow. Mike Curley of Relay FM shares his strategy for revenue growth through increased ad rates and new show launches, while explaining his focus on business metrics over download numbers. The hosts compare their operational models, with Studio Neat adopting a 'profit first' financial system and cyclical work schedules to manage product development cycles.

## Chapters

- [0:57](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2018-01-24-34-goals-and-plans-for-2018#t=57) Studio Neat's 2018 Product Plans
- [4:04](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2018-01-24-34-goals-and-plans-for-2018#t=244) Relay FM's Revenue Growth Strategy
- [15:40](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2018-01-24-34-goals-and-plans-for-2018#t=940) Studio Neat's New Work Structure
- [32:50](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2018-01-24-34-goals-and-plans-for-2018#t=1970) The 'Profit First' Financial System
- [41:48](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2018-01-24-34-goals-and-plans-for-2018#t=2508) Cash Flow and Payment Management

## Topics

- [Pricing, margins & unit economics](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/pricing-and-unit-economics)
- [Leadership, teams & culture](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/leadership-and-culture)
- [Crowdfunding & preorders](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/crowdfunding)
- [Direct-to-consumer & e-commerce](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/direct-to-consumer)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Studio Neat (company)
- Basecamp (company)
- Profit First (other)
- FreshBooks (tool)
- Overcast (product)

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- [Kickstarter: Perry Chen (2018)](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/how-i-built-this/2018-12-31-kickstarter-perry-chen-2018) (How I Built This)
- [Advice Line with Tim Ferriss](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/how-i-built-this/2025-08-28-advice-line-with-tim-ferriss) (How I Built This)
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- [085: Scaling Your Product Up After Crowdfunding](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/product-startup/2021-07-21-085-scaling-your-product-up-after-crowdfunding) (Product Startup)

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