# From Teleoperation to Autonomy: Inside Boston Dynamics' Atlas Training

- Show: [The Robot Report Podcast](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-robot-report-podcast)
- Published: 2025-09-12
- Length: 1h 05m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-robot-report-podcast/2025-09-12-from-teleoperation-to-autonomy-inside-boston-dynamics-atlas-training
- Listen: https://soundcloud.com/robot-report-podcast/from-teleoperation-to-autonomy-inside-boston-dynamics-atlas-training

## Summary

Scott Kuindersma, VP of Robotics Research at Boston Dynamics, explains how the company trains the Atlas humanoid robot using Large Behavior Models (LBMs) and teleoperation data. The team collected 20 hours of teleoperation data to enable Atlas to perform complex bi-manual manipulation tasks, such as picking and placing Spot parts, while adapting to real-time disturbances. Kuindersma details the four-stage pipeline of data collection, annotation, model training, and evaluation, highlighting the critical role of simulation data and human demonstrations in generalizing these skills. The episode concludes with plans to test Atlas in Hyundai facilities and further explore AI-centric dynamic behaviors.

## Chapters

- [0:08](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-robot-report-podcast/2025-09-12-from-teleoperation-to-autonomy-inside-boston-dynamics-atlas-training#t=8) Introduction: Robo Business and News Recap
- [5:15](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-robot-report-podcast/2025-09-12-from-teleoperation-to-autonomy-inside-boston-dynamics-atlas-training#t=315) Serve Robotics Acquires Phantom Auto and Voices AB
- [10:01](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-robot-report-podcast/2025-09-12-from-teleoperation-to-autonomy-inside-boston-dynamics-atlas-training#t=601) Waymo Robotaxi Launches Public Service in Las Vegas
- [16:03](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-robot-report-podcast/2025-09-12-from-teleoperation-to-autonomy-inside-boston-dynamics-atlas-training#t=963) AWS Shuts Down Robel Maker Simulation Service
- [21:30](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-robot-report-podcast/2025-09-12-from-teleoperation-to-autonomy-inside-boston-dynamics-atlas-training#t=1290) ISO 10218 Standard Update: Redefining Collaborative Robots
- [27:27](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-robot-report-podcast/2025-09-12-from-teleoperation-to-autonomy-inside-boston-dynamics-atlas-training#t=1647) Introduction: Scott Kuindersma and Boston Dynamics Atlas
- [34:05](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-robot-report-podcast/2025-09-12-from-teleoperation-to-autonomy-inside-boston-dynamics-atlas-training#t=2045) Large Behavior Models (LBMs) and Teleoperation Data
- [37:03](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-robot-report-podcast/2025-09-12-from-teleoperation-to-autonomy-inside-boston-dynamics-atlas-training#t=2223) The 4-Stage LBM Training Pipeline and Evaluation
- [45:52](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-robot-report-podcast/2025-09-12-from-teleoperation-to-autonomy-inside-boston-dynamics-atlas-training#t=2752) Scalability, Simulation Data, and the Data Pyramid
- [58:04](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-robot-report-podcast/2025-09-12-from-teleoperation-to-autonomy-inside-boston-dynamics-atlas-training#t=3484) Hyundai Facility Testing and Future AI-Centric Results

## Topics

- [Embedded firmware](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/embedded-firmware)
- [Robotics & autonomy](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/robotics-and-autonomy)
- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)
- [Manufacturing partners & offshoring](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/manufacturing-partners)
- [Validation & product-market fit](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/validation-and-product-market-fit)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Boston Dynamics (company)
- Atlas (product)
- Spot (product)
- TRI (company)
- Toyota Research Institute (company)
- Serve Robotics (company)
- Phantom Auto (company)
- Voices AB (company)
- Waymo (company)
- AWS (company)
- Robel Maker (product)
- iRobot (company)
- Hyundai (company)
- ISO 10218 (other)
- Universal Robots (company)

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