# Agile vs. V Model

- Show: [The Pragmatic Embedded Podcast](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast)
- Published: 2023-03-30
- Length: 45m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2023-03-30-agile-vs-v-model
- Listen: https://agileembeddedpodcast.com/episodes/agile-vs-v-model-BEm2Ki2m

## Summary

Hosts Jeff Gable and Luca engineer discuss reconciling the V-model with Agile development, particularly for safety-critical industries like medical devices. They argue that the V-model correctly identifies necessary activities but fails when applied as a long-cycle waterfall process. The speakers advocate for treating Agile as a series of mini-Vs, emphasizing rapid iteration, automated documentation, and breaking down silos between engineering and controlling departments to manage risk effectively.

## Chapters

- [0:27](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2023-03-30-agile-vs-v-model#t=27) Defining the V-Model and its constraints
- [5:15](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2023-03-30-agile-vs-v-model#t=315) The problem with long-cycle V-models
- [9:23](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2023-03-30-agile-vs-v-model#t=563) Agile as a sequence of mini-Vs
- [13:01](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2023-03-30-agile-vs-v-model#t=781) Incremental vs. Iterative development in medical devices
- [20:43](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2023-03-30-agile-vs-v-model#t=1243) Strategies for shortening cycles and automation
- [29:52](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2023-03-30-agile-vs-v-model#t=1792) Managing organizational silos and culture clashes
- [43:51](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2023-03-30-agile-vs-v-model#t=2631) Conclusion and contact information

## Topics

- [Careers & education](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/engineering-careers-and-education)
- [Leadership, teams & culture](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/leadership-and-culture)
- [Validation & product-market fit](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/validation-and-product-market-fit)
- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)

## Most relevant to

established companies

## Mentioned

- Jeff Gable (other)
- Luca (other)
- FDA (other)
- TIR 45 (other)
- Cal Vegas (other)
- Lean Startup (other)
- DevOps (other)

## Related episodes from other shows

- [Waterfall vs. Agile: Battle of the Product Development Methodologies](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/global-medical-device-podcast/2021-04-28-waterfall-vs-agile-battle-of-the-product-development-methodologies) (Global Medical Device Podcast)
- [440: Condemned to Being Perfect](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2023-01-13-440-condemned-to-being-perfect) (Embedded.fm)
- [16: Democracy Is the Worst Form of Government](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2013-08-28-16-democracy-is-the-worst-form-of-government) (Embedded.fm)
- [#064 - To transform or not to transform your hardware company to an all agile one next year, with Balint Horvath, Switzerland](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-hardware-entrepreneur/2018-11-21-064-to-transform-or-not-to-transform-your-hardware-company-to-an-all-agile-one-n) (The Hardware Entrepreneur)
- [67: Software for Things That Can Kill People](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2014-09-11-67-software-for-things-that-can-kill-people) (Embedded.fm)

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