# Interview with Phillip Johnston Part 1

- Show: [The Pragmatic Embedded Podcast](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast)
- Published: 2022-11-15
- Length: 43m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2022-11-15-interview-with-phillip-johnston-part-1
- Listen: https://agileembeddedpodcast.com/episodes/interview-with-phillip-johnston-part-1-NGZwOAkC

## Summary

Phillip Johnston, founder of Embedded Artistry, discusses the architectural and cultural requirements for building connected embedded systems, emphasizing the necessity of Over-the-Air (OTA) updates and robust feedback loops. He explains how telemetry data enables staged rollouts, automated issue detection, and preventative maintenance, allowing teams to prioritize development based on actual field performance rather than guesswork. Johnston also addresses the privacy and security complexities of collecting device data, advocating for secure, anonymized, and consent-based data handling practices.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2022-11-15-interview-with-phillip-johnston-part-1#t=0) Introduction: Phillip Johnston and Embedded Artistry
- [3:17](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2022-11-15-interview-with-phillip-johnston-part-1#t=197) The Value of Telemetry and Field Data
- [7:58](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2022-11-15-interview-with-phillip-johnston-part-1#t=478) Infrastructure for Connected Devices
- [13:33](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2022-11-15-interview-with-phillip-johnston-part-1#t=813) Staged Rollouts and CI/CD Integration
- [19:23](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2022-11-15-interview-with-phillip-johnston-part-1#t=1163) Cultural Priorities: Fixing Bugs vs. New Features
- [26:47](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2022-11-15-interview-with-phillip-johnston-part-1#t=1607) Privacy, Security, and Data Handling
- [34:49](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2022-11-15-interview-with-phillip-johnston-part-1#t=2089) Applying Telemetry to Offline Devices
- [39:14](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2022-11-15-interview-with-phillip-johnston-part-1#t=2354) Summary of Connected System Requirements

## Topics

- [Connected products & IoT](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/connected-products-and-iot)
- [Security & privacy](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/security-and-privacy)
- [Scaling production](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/scaling-production)
- [Embedded firmware](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/embedded-firmware)
- [Quality & yield](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/quality-and-yield)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Embedded Artistry (company)
- Memfault (company)
- Agile Embedded Academy (company)

## Related episodes from other shows

- [Firmware for Hardware Engineers with Phillip Johnston](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2021-09-07-firmware-for-hardware-engineers-with-phillip-johnston) (The Amp Hour)
- [#002: The secrets to building secure & scalable OTA infrastructure with Nick Sinas](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/coredump-sessions/2024-12-18-002-the-secrets-to-building-secure-scalable-ota-infrastructure-with-nick-sinas) (Coredump Sessions)
- [390: Irresponsible At the Time](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2021-10-21-390-irresponsible-at-the-time) (Embedded.fm)
- [Revolutionizing IoT Device Management: Updating the World with Peridio](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/over-the-air/2024-08-01-revolutionizing-iot-device-management-updating-the-world-with-peridio) (Over the Air)
- [#017 - How *not* to think about IoT, with Michael Vladimer of Orange IoT Studio, USA](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-hardware-entrepreneur/2017-03-15-017-how-not-to-think-about-iot-with-michael-vladimer-of-orange-iot-studio-usa) (The Hardware Entrepreneur)

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