# The Three Ways of DevOps

- Show: [The Pragmatic Embedded Podcast](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast)
- Published: 2022-09-06
- Length: 1h 02m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2022-09-06-the-three-ways-of-devops
- Listen: https://agileembeddedpodcast.com/episodes/the-three-ways-of-devops-bArgCHDv

## Summary

Jeff Gable and Luca engineer discuss applying Gene Kim's Three Ways of DevOps to embedded systems development. They cover increasing flow through value stream analysis, amplifying feedback loops via continuous integration and field diagnostics, and fostering a culture of continuous improvement and safe experimentation. The hosts emphasize that these principles help embedded teams avoid silos, reduce cycle times, and build higher quality products by shifting left and learning from failures.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2022-09-06-the-three-ways-of-devops#t=0) Introduction to the Three Ways of DevOps
- [1:37](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2022-09-06-the-three-ways-of-devops#t=97) First Way: Flow and Systems Thinking
- [7:40](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2022-09-06-the-three-ways-of-devops#t=460) Value Stream Analysis and Cycle Time Efficiency
- [12:32](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2022-09-06-the-three-ways-of-devops#t=752) Global Optimization and Quality at the Source
- [16:14](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2022-09-06-the-three-ways-of-devops#t=974) Continuous Integration and Automated Feedback
- [28:04](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2022-09-06-the-three-ways-of-devops#t=1684) Second Way: Amplifying Feedback Loops
- [30:41](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2022-09-06-the-three-ways-of-devops#t=1841) Breaking Silos and Field Diagnostics
- [39:10](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2022-09-06-the-three-ways-of-devops#t=2350) Third Way: Culture of Continuous Improvement
- [44:15](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2022-09-06-the-three-ways-of-devops#t=2655) Safe Experimentation and Blameless Postmortems
- [58:19](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2022-09-06-the-three-ways-of-devops#t=3499) Conclusion and Recommended Reading

## Topics

- [Leadership, teams & culture](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/leadership-and-culture)
- [Scaling production](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/scaling-production)
- [Embedded firmware](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/embedded-firmware)
- [Debugging & failure analysis](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/debugging-and-failure-analysis)
- [Careers & education](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/engineering-careers-and-education)

## Most relevant to

established companies

## Mentioned

- Gene Kim (other)
- The DevOps Handbook (other)
- The Phoenix Project (other)
- BMW (company)
- Etsy (company)
- Joel on Software (other)
- The Goal (other)
- HP (company)
- Google (company)
- FAA (other)

## Related episodes from other shows

- [53: Being a Grownup Engineer (Repeat)](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2016-09-28-53-being-a-grownup-engineer-repeat) (Embedded.fm)
- [53: Being a Grownup Engineer](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2014-05-28-53-being-a-grownup-engineer) (Embedded.fm)
- [Firmware for Hardware Engineers with Phillip Johnston](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2021-09-07-firmware-for-hardware-engineers-with-phillip-johnston) (The Amp Hour)
- [16: Democracy Is the Worst Form of Government](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2013-08-28-16-democracy-is-the-worst-form-of-government) (Embedded.fm)
- [270: Broccoli Is Good Too](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-12-14-270-broccoli-is-good-too) (Embedded.fm)

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