# Does DevOps Make Sense for Embedded Systems?

- Show: [The Pragmatic Embedded Podcast](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast)
- Published: 2021-01-06
- Length: 40m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2021-01-06-does-devops-make-sense-for-embedded-systems
- Listen: https://agileembeddedpodcast.com/episodes/does-devops-make-sense-for-embedded-systems-bxoaxImA

## Summary

Jeff Gable and Luca Engeni discuss why DevOps and Agile principles are essential for embedded systems, particularly in safety-critical industries like medical devices and aerospace. They argue that while hardware iteration is slower than software, fixed cadences for PCB releases can still accelerate feedback loops. The conversation highlights the shift toward over-the-air updates, using Tesla as a case study for the new safety challenges introduced by connected vehicles.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2021-01-06-does-devops-make-sense-for-embedded-systems#t=0) Introduction: DevOps in Embedded Systems
- [1:12](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2021-01-06-does-devops-make-sense-for-embedded-systems#t=72) Agile in Medical Devices and Cargo Culting
- [7:52](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2021-01-06-does-devops-make-sense-for-embedded-systems#t=472) Impedance Mismatch and Hardware Cadence
- [12:17](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2021-01-06-does-devops-make-sense-for-embedded-systems#t=737) Fixed Release Cycles for Hardware
- [19:49](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2021-01-06-does-devops-make-sense-for-embedded-systems#t=1189) Applying Agile to Startups and Safety-Critical Regulators
- [31:51](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-pragmatic-embedded-podcast/2021-01-06-does-devops-make-sense-for-embedded-systems#t=1911) Tesla, OTA Updates, and New Safety Challenges

## Topics

- [Embedded firmware](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/embedded-firmware)
- [Validation & product-market fit](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/validation-and-product-market-fit)
- [Connected products & IoT](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/connected-products-and-iot)
- [Leadership, teams & culture](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/leadership-and-culture)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies, companies scaling up

## Mentioned

- Tesla (company)
- FDA (other)
- Microsoft (company)

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- [Embedded Systems Engineer Discusses AI-Driven Testing Revolution](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ontrack/2025-06-03-embedded-systems-engineer-discusses-ai-driven-testing-revolution) (OnTrack)
- [The Spark Gap - Episode 19](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-spark-gap/2014-10-22-the-spark-gap-episode-19) (The Spark Gap)

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