# 209. Tom Zaubermann & The Cyber Threat(s) To Your Car

- Show: [The Next Byte Podcast](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-next-byte-podcast)
- Published: 2025-02-04
- Length: 55m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-next-byte-podcast/2025-02-04-209-tom-zaubermann-the-cyber-threat-s-to-your-car
- Listen: https://the-next-byte-wevolver.simplecast.com/episodes/209-tom-zaubermann-the-cyber-threats-to-your-car-bLtvAE79

## Summary

Tom Zaubermann, a cybersecurity expert and SAE International instructor who previously worked at Volkswagen, explains why legacy automotive development models like the V-model are failing in the era of connected cars. He discusses the shift towards Over-the-Air (OTA) updates, the complexities of hacking multiple Electronic Control Units (ECUs) to compromise vehicle safety, and the critical need for OEMs to adopt Secure Software Development Lifecycles (SSDLC). Zaubermann advises consumers to check for bug bounty programs as an indicator of security maturity and highlights the regulatory push via ISO 21434 in Europe.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-next-byte-podcast/2025-02-04-209-tom-zaubermann-the-cyber-threat-s-to-your-car#t=0) Introduction and Tom Zaubermann's Background
- [12:05](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-next-byte-podcast/2025-02-04-209-tom-zaubermann-the-cyber-threat-s-to-your-car#t=725) The Failure of the V-Model in Modern Automotive
- [21:05](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-next-byte-podcast/2025-02-04-209-tom-zaubermann-the-cyber-threat-s-to-your-car#t=1265) The Necessity of Over-the-Air Updates and SSDLC
- [25:20](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-next-byte-podcast/2025-02-04-209-tom-zaubermann-the-cyber-threat-s-to-your-car#t=1520) Consumer Advice: Bug Bounties and CVEs
- [34:23](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-next-byte-podcast/2025-02-04-209-tom-zaubermann-the-cyber-threat-s-to-your-car#t=2063) Complexities of Car Hacking and ECU Vulnerabilities
- [32:35](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-next-byte-podcast/2025-02-04-209-tom-zaubermann-the-cyber-threat-s-to-your-car#t=1955) Regulatory Pressure: ISO 21434 and SAE International
- [52:10](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-next-byte-podcast/2025-02-04-209-tom-zaubermann-the-cyber-threat-s-to-your-car#t=3130) Tesla Speedometer Project and Career Advice

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## Most relevant to

large enterprises

## Mentioned

- Volkswagen (company)
- Tesla (company)
- ISO 21434 (other)
- Raspberry Pi (chip)
- STM32 (chip)
- United Airlines (company)
- Subaru (company)
- Toyota (company)
- BMW (company)

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