# 160. AI Model Tests AI Models To Tell Us How They Work

- Show: [The Next Byte Podcast](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-next-byte-podcast)
- Published: 2024-02-06
- Length: 19m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-next-byte-podcast/2024-02-06-160-ai-model-tests-ai-models-to-tell-us-how-they-work
- Listen: https://the-next-byte-wevolver.simplecast.com/episodes/160-ai-model-tests-ai-models-to-tell-us-how-they-work-AhpULEdJ

## Summary

Hosts Daniel and Forbode discuss a team from MIT that has developed an 'Automated Interpretability Agent' (AIA) to analyze and explain the inner workings of other AI models. They detail how AIA uses pre-trained language models to probe neural networks, identifying strengths, weaknesses, and biases by testing individual neurons and composite behaviors. The hosts also cover the accompanying benchmark test, 'Find' (Function, Interpretation, and Description), which measures how well interpretation agents perform, noting that AIA is currently only about 50% effective on this standardized scale.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-next-byte-podcast/2024-02-06-160-ai-model-tests-ai-models-to-tell-us-how-they-work#t=0) Introduction: MIT's AI Inception and AIA
- [1:21](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-next-byte-podcast/2024-02-06-160-ai-model-tests-ai-models-to-tell-us-how-they-work#t=81) The Black Box Problem and AIA's Approach
- [4:49](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-next-byte-podcast/2024-02-06-160-ai-model-tests-ai-models-to-tell-us-how-they-work#t=289) Dissecting Neurons and Model Capabilities
- [6:53](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-next-byte-podcast/2024-02-06-160-ai-model-tests-ai-models-to-tell-us-how-they-work#t=413) Leveraging LLM Strengths to Measure AI
- [9:48](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-next-byte-podcast/2024-02-06-160-ai-model-tests-ai-models-to-tell-us-how-they-work#t=588) The 'Find' Benchmark for Interpretability
- [13:40](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-next-byte-podcast/2024-02-06-160-ai-model-tests-ai-models-to-tell-us-how-they-work#t=820) AI Policing AI and Future Implications

## Topics

- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)

## Most relevant to

makers and hobbyists

## Mentioned

- MIT (company)
- AIA (product)
- Find (product)
- ChatGPT (product)
- Groq (product)
- Bard (product)
- Midjourney (product)
- Wevolver (company)

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