# Episode 67: A Conversation with Aart de Geus on EDA and the Future of Silicon Design

- Show: [The Circuit](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-circuit)
- Published: 2024-05-13
- Length: 42m
- Episode: 68
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-circuit/2024-05-13-episode-67-a-conversation-with-aart-de-geus-on-eda-and-the-future-of-silicon-des
- Listen: https://share.transistor.fm/s/d8bf8449

## Summary

Aart de Geus, co-founder and executive chair of Synopsys, discusses the evolution of electronic design automation (EDA) and the future of silicon design. He explains how the industry shifted from analog to digital design, enabling the automation that drove Moore's Law, and details the transition to the Angstrom era with technologies like FinFETs and backside power delivery. De Geus also highlights the rise of systemic complexity through chiplets and vertical stacking, and the critical role of AI in optimizing these complex multi-die architectures.

## Chapters

- [0:05](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-circuit/2024-05-13-episode-67-a-conversation-with-aart-de-geus-on-eda-and-the-future-of-silicon-des#t=5) Introduction and EDA Basics
- [4:17](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-circuit/2024-05-13-episode-67-a-conversation-with-aart-de-geus-on-eda-and-the-future-of-silicon-des#t=257) The Shift from Analog to Digital Design
- [10:03](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-circuit/2024-05-13-episode-67-a-conversation-with-aart-de-geus-on-eda-and-the-future-of-silicon-des#t=603) Complexity and the Hotel Analogy
- [13:47](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-circuit/2024-05-13-episode-67-a-conversation-with-aart-de-geus-on-eda-and-the-future-of-silicon-des#t=827) AI in EDA and Backside Power
- [19:41](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-circuit/2024-05-13-episode-67-a-conversation-with-aart-de-geus-on-eda-and-the-future-of-silicon-des#t=1181) The Role of AI in Chip Design
- [22:59](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-circuit/2024-05-13-episode-67-a-conversation-with-aart-de-geus-on-eda-and-the-future-of-silicon-des#t=1379) EDA and Foundry Relationships
- [28:20](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-circuit/2024-05-13-episode-67-a-conversation-with-aart-de-geus-on-eda-and-the-future-of-silicon-des#t=1700) The Angstrom Era and Systemic Complexity
- [34:52](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-circuit/2024-05-13-episode-67-a-conversation-with-aart-de-geus-on-eda-and-the-future-of-silicon-des#t=2092) Chiplets and Multi-Die Integration

## Topics

- [EDA & CAD tools](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/eda-and-cad-tools)
- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)
- [Chips, FPGAs & semiconductors](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/chips-and-fpgas)
- [Manufacturing partners & offshoring](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/manufacturing-partners)

## Most relevant to

large enterprises

## Mentioned

- Synopsys (company)
- Intel (company)
- Spice (tool)
- General Electric (company)
- ASML (company)
- Apple (company)
- NVIDIA (company)
- AMD (company)

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- [The State of Analog Design in 2023](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2023-01-20-the-state-of-analog-design-in-2023) (EE Times Current)
- [Inside a Multi-$Billion IP Engine Driving IC and EDA Innovations](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2026-09-22-inside-a-multi-billion-ip-engine-driving-ic-and-eda-innovations) (Moore's Lobby)
- [Synopsys' Stelios Diamantidis Is Bringing the Magic of AI To Chip Design](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2023-04-04-synopsys-stelios-diamantidis-is-bringing-the-magic-of-ai-to-chip-design) (Moore's Lobby)
- [An Interview with Steve Leibson - Impavid Ideopraxist Insider](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2012-06-11-an-interview-with-steve-leibson-impavid-ideopraxist-insider) (The Amp Hour)
- [An All Inclusive Journey to HPC/Data Center Silicon Success](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2022-10-21-an-all-inclusive-journey-to-hpc-data-center-silicon-success) (EE Times Current)

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