# Episode 22: Talking Apple Vision Pro

- Show: [The Circuit](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-circuit)
- Published: 2023-06-08
- Length: 50m
- Episode: 23
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-circuit/2023-06-08-episode-22-talking-apple-vision-pro
- Listen: https://share.transistor.fm/s/e0b7d82f

## Summary

Ben Bajarin and Jay Goldberg discuss the Apple Vision Pro, a new mixed reality headset from Apple that Ben personally demoed, describing it as a 'technological marvel' with unprecedented low latency and eye-tracking. They analyze the device's hardware, specifically the M2 and R1 chips, and debate the competitive implications for rivals like Meta and Qualcomm, noting that Apple's vertical integration sets a high baseline for the industry. The hosts conclude that while the technology is impressive, the platform's success depends on developers creating a robust ecosystem, as the current high price and manufacturing constraints limit initial volume.

## Chapters

- [0:12](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-circuit/2023-06-08-episode-22-talking-apple-vision-pro#t=12) Introduction: Ben Bajarin and Jay Goldberg on the Apple Vision Pro announcement
- [3:22](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-circuit/2023-06-08-episode-22-talking-apple-vision-pro#t=202) Ben Bajarin's hands-on demo: latency, eye tracking, and spatial interface
- [14:38](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-circuit/2023-06-08-episode-22-talking-apple-vision-pro#t=878) Hardware deep dive: M2, R1 chip, micro OLED displays, and sensor fusion
- [22:34](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-circuit/2023-06-08-episode-22-talking-apple-vision-pro#t=1354) Use cases and developer ecosystem: enterprise productivity vs. consumer entertainment
- [33:35](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-circuit/2023-06-08-episode-22-talking-apple-vision-pro#t=2015) Competitive landscape: Meta, Qualcomm, and the challenge of competing with Apple
- [45:21](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-circuit/2023-06-08-episode-22-talking-apple-vision-pro#t=2721) Conclusion: The strategic importance of custom silicon and industry reaction

## Topics

- [Connected products & IoT](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/connected-products-and-iot)
- [Chips, FPGAs & semiconductors](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/chips-and-fpgas)
- [Industrial & consumer product design](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/industrial-design)
- [Scaling production](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/scaling-production)

## Most relevant to

large enterprises

## Mentioned

- Apple (company)
- Apple Vision Pro (product)
- Meta (company)
- Qualcomm (company)
- M2 (chip)
- R1 (chip)
- micro OLED (other)

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- [How to Build a Metaverse](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2021-11-05-how-to-build-a-metaverse) (EE Times Current)
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