S2 E7: Intellectual Property Strategy for Hardware Startups with Troy Grabow

The Builder Circle · 20 Feb 2024 · 1h 10m

What this episode covers

Patent attorney Troy Grabow, founder of Grabow Law, explains IP strategy for hardware startups, distinguishing between patents, trade secrets, trademarks, and copyrights. He details the costs and timelines of patent prosecution, the risks of overseas manufacturing in China, and the critical importance of clear IP ownership agreements in co-development and supplier relationships. Grabow also emphasizes the need for rigorous employee IP education and proper inventorship documentation to avoid legal pitfalls.

Mentioned

Companies
Grabow Law, Finnegan Henderson, Pax Labs, Juul Labs, Apple, Nike, Pepsi, Google X, Tesla, Solidworks, Onshape, Pratik
Products
Coca Cola, The Social Network
Also
U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, Winklevoss twins, Mark Zuckerberg, Hardware Meetup

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