# Fan Fanboys

- Show: [The Amp Hour](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour)
- Published: 2023-09-11
- Length: 1h 03m
- Episode: 646
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2023-09-11-fan-fanboys
- Listen: https://theamphour.com/646-fan-fanboys/

## Summary

Hosts Chris Gammell and Dave Jones discuss the economics of selling low-volume hardware, the challenges of supply chain shortages, and the evolution of the oscilloscope market. They analyze Rigol's new DHO800 series, noting its thermal design and Android OS, while contrasting it with legacy strategies from Tektronix and Keysight that rely on old ASICs and old stock. The conversation also covers PCB manufacturing nuances, such as controlled depth routing and flex PCB costs, and the broader industry shift towards RISC-V.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2023-09-11-fan-fanboys#t=0) Introduction and Selling Low-Volume Hardware
- [5:32](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2023-09-11-fan-fanboys#t=332) Pricing Strategies and Business Brain vs. Hardware Brain
- [12:35](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2023-09-11-fan-fanboys#t=755) Thermal Design and Fan Noise in Oscilloscopes
- [24:18](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2023-09-11-fan-fanboys#t=1458) PCB Manufacturing: Controlled Depth Routing and Flex PCBs
- [37:39](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2023-09-11-fan-fanboys#t=2259) Supply Chain Shortages and Component Availability
- [44:35](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2023-09-11-fan-fanboys#t=2675) Intel's Foundry Strategy and RISC-V Adoption
- [51:35](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2023-09-11-fan-fanboys#t=3095) Tektronix and Keysight's Use of Legacy Silicon
- [59:17](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2023-09-11-fan-fanboys#t=3557) Rigol DHO800 Review and Market Disruption

## Topics

- [Pricing, margins & unit economics](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/pricing-and-unit-economics)
- [Sourcing & supply chain](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/sourcing-and-supply-chain)
- [Mechanical engineering](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/mechanical-engineering)
- [Manufacturing partners & offshoring](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/manufacturing-partners)
- [Chips, FPGAs & semiconductors](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/chips-and-fpgas)
- [Debugging & failure analysis](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/debugging-and-failure-analysis)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies, large enterprises

## Mentioned

- Rigol (company)
- DHO800 (product)
- Tektronix (company)
- Keysight (company)
- Intel (company)
- RISC-V (chip)
- STM32 (chip)
- Bryman (company)
- Kane Test (company)
- Agilent (company)
- Siglent (company)
- Rohde & Schwarz (company)
- JLC (company)
- AliExpress (other)

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