# Picking a Pick and Place Pickiness

- Show: [The Amp Hour](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour)
- Published: 2022-11-21
- Length: 1h 08m
- Episode: 610
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2022-11-21-picking-a-pick-and-place-pickiness
- Listen: https://theamphour.com/610-picking-a-pick-and-place-pickiness/

## Summary

Dave Jones from EEVblog discusses his intention to purchase a Neoden YY1 pick-and-place machine for in-house PCB assembly, while Chris Gammell of Contextual Electronics encourages the move despite the machine's software and feeder limitations. The hosts compare the Neoden YY1 to open-source alternatives like the Lumen (Opulo) pick-and-place, noting the commercial machine's superior hardware despite its high cost and shipping fees. They also cover low-cost RISC-V microcontrollers from WCH, specifically the CH32V003, and discuss the challenges of integrating renewable energy into the power grid, citing issues with intermittency and the need for baseload power like nuclear.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2022-11-21-picking-a-pick-and-place-pickiness#t=0) Introduction: Dave Jones and the Pick-and-Place Dilemma
- [1:04](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2022-11-21-picking-a-pick-and-place-pickiness#t=64) Dave Jones' Plan for In-House PCB Assembly
- [3:01](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2022-11-21-picking-a-pick-and-place-pickiness#t=181) Reflow Profiling Challenges and Trade Show Failures
- [5:31](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2022-11-21-picking-a-pick-and-place-pickiness#t=331) Chris Gammell's Supercon Talk and One-Engineer Dev Shops
- [9:28](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2022-11-21-picking-a-pick-and-place-pickiness#t=568) Neoden YY1 Review: Price, Features, and Software Issues
- [14:54](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2022-11-21-picking-a-pick-and-place-pickiness#t=894) Comparison with Open Source Lumen (Opulo) Pick-and-Place
- [25:26](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2022-11-21-picking-a-pick-and-place-pickiness#t=1526) Mushroom PCBs and StartEngine Crowdfunding Warning
- [31:22](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2022-11-21-picking-a-pick-and-place-pickiness#t=1882) Heat Pump Installation and Energy Usage Analysis
- [34:02](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2022-11-21-picking-a-pick-and-place-pickiness#t=2042) Grid Operators' View on Renewable Energy Intermittency
- [43:16](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2022-11-21-picking-a-pick-and-place-pickiness#t=2596) Supercon Badge, Modular Nuclear Reactors, and RISC-V Chips

## Topics

- [PCB design & layout](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/pcb-design)
- [Microcontrollers & dev platforms](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/microcontrollers-and-platforms)
- [Energy & climate tech](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/energy-and-climate-tech)
- [Crowdfunding & preorders](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/crowdfunding)
- [Chips, FPGAs & semiconductors](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/chips-and-fpgas)
- [Careers & education](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/engineering-careers-and-education)

## Most relevant to

makers and hobbyists

## Mentioned

- Neoden YY1 (product)
- Neoden 4 (product)
- Lumen (product)
- Opulo (product)
- WCH (company)
- CH32V003 (chip)
- Paduk (chip)
- StartEngine (other)
- Supercon (other)

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