# Grumpy Collaboration

- Show: [The Amp Hour](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour)
- Published: 2021-10-25
- Length: 1h 03m
- Episode: 563
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2021-10-25-grumpy-collaboration
- Listen: https://theamphour.com/563-grumpy-collaboration/

## Summary

Chris Gammell and Dave Jones discuss the Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4, highlighting the engineering trade-offs of using eMMC flash over SD cards and the significant time penalties for in-situ programming and validation. They critique the commercialization of Raspberry Pi, specifically the move to a .com domain and the opening of a physical store in Cambridge, viewing it as unnecessary marketing 'wankery' for a technical product. The hosts also express skepticism about the recent SPAC merger of Tempo Automation with Advanced Circuits, questioning the $920 million valuation of an assembly house, and dismiss online collaborative design tools like Flux as solving a non-existent problem for hardware engineers who fundamentally work alone.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2021-10-25-grumpy-collaboration#t=0) Introduction: Chris Gammell and Dave Jones
- [1:02](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2021-10-25-grumpy-collaboration#t=62) Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4: eMMC vs SD Card and Programming Hassles
- [9:08](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2021-10-25-grumpy-collaboration#t=548) Raspberry Pi Commercialization: .com Domain and Physical Store Critique
- [17:43](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2021-10-25-grumpy-collaboration#t=1063) Tempo Automation SPAC Merger and $920 Million Valuation Skepticism
- [26:20](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2021-10-25-grumpy-collaboration#t=1580) Online Collaborative Design Tools: Flux and the Myth of Team Design
- [38:17](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2021-10-25-grumpy-collaboration#t=2297) KiCad Domain Drama and Trademarks to Linux Foundation
- [47:07](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2021-10-25-grumpy-collaboration#t=2827) Circuit Hub Flat Rate Prototyping and Startup Money
- [49:07](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2021-10-25-grumpy-collaboration#t=2947) Conformal Coating Mix-up: Acrylic vs Silicone
- [54:26](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2021-10-25-grumpy-collaboration#t=3266) Chip of the Week: That Corporation Dynamic Processor IC

## Topics

- [PCB design & layout](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/pcb-design)
- [Microcontrollers & dev platforms](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/microcontrollers-and-platforms)
- [EDA & CAD tools](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/eda-and-cad-tools)
- [Manufacturing partners & offshoring](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/manufacturing-partners)
- [Direct-to-consumer & e-commerce](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/direct-to-consumer)
- [Fundraising & investors](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/fundraising)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Raspberry Pi (product)
- Compute Module 4 (product)
- Hirose (other)
- KiCad (tool)
- Tempo Automation (company)
- Advanced Circuits (company)
- Circuit Hub (company)
- Flux (tool)
- Altium (tool)
- Upverter (tool)
- That Corporation (chip)

## Related episodes from other shows

- [The Spark Gap - Episode 15](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-spark-gap/2014-09-24-the-spark-gap-episode-15) (The Spark Gap)
- [EP014: Keeping Raspberry's SD Card Alive, We Love MRRF, and How Hot Are Flip Chips?](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/hackaday-podcast/2019-04-12-ep014-keeping-raspberrys-sd-card-alive-we-love-mrrf-and-how-hot-are-flip-chips) (Hackaday Podcast)
- [Documentation as Code: A chat with Alasdair Allan from Raspberry Pi](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-electromaker-show/2022-07-21-documentation-as-code-a-chat-with-alasdair-allan-from-raspberry-pi) (The Electromaker Show)
- [Electromaker Interview: Eben Upton - Raspberry Pi creator!](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-electromaker-show/2022-07-05-electromaker-interview-eben-upton-raspberry-pi-creator) (The Electromaker Show)
- [Ep 375: Rebuilding Tech on Our Terms and the Hero Nerd](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/hackaday-podcast/2026-06-26-ep-375-rebuilding-tech-on-our-terms-and-the-hero-nerd) (Hackaday Podcast)

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