# An Interview with Trammell Hudson

- Show: [The Amp Hour](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour)
- Published: 2019-10-21
- Length: 1h 13m
- Episode: 463
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2019-10-21-an-interview-with-trammell-hudson
- Listen: https://theamphour.com/463-an-interview-with-trammell-hudson/

## Summary

Trammell Hudson, a hardware and firmware security researcher, discusses his diverse projects including reverse engineering Canon cameras with Magic Lantern, discovering a time-of-check-time-of-use vulnerability in Intel Boot Guard, and building the SpySpy FPGA tool. He details his work on retro computing, such as vector display emulation and finding Easter eggs in Mac SE ROMs, as well as his security research on Puma robot arms and passive RFID tags. Hudson explains his philosophy on open-source firmware through projects like Linux Boot and Coreboot, emphasizing user control and security transparency.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2019-10-21-an-interview-with-trammell-hudson#t=0) Introduction: Trammell Hudson and Overview of Interests
- [6:54](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2019-10-21-an-interview-with-trammell-hudson#t=414) Reverse Engineering Canon Cameras and Magic Lantern
- [11:25](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2019-10-21-an-interview-with-trammell-hudson#t=685) Intel Boot Guard Vulnerability and the SpySpy FPGA Tool
- [21:28](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2019-10-21-an-interview-with-trammell-hudson#t=1288) Retro Computing, Vector Displays, and Mac SE Easter Eggs
- [32:41](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2019-10-21-an-interview-with-trammell-hudson#t=1961) Passive RFID Tags and RFID Hacking
- [37:41](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2019-10-21-an-interview-with-trammell-hudson#t=2261) Software Defined Radio and Digital Modes
- [50:51](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2019-10-21-an-interview-with-trammell-hudson#t=3051) Reverse Engineering Puma Robot Arms and Shuffleboard
- [58:08](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2019-10-21-an-interview-with-trammell-hudson#t=3488) Firmware Security, Thunderstrike, and Linux Boot

## Topics

- [Security & privacy](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/security-and-privacy)
- [Embedded firmware](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/embedded-firmware)
- [Robotics & autonomy](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/robotics-and-autonomy)
- [PCB design & layout](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/pcb-design)
- [Debugging & failure analysis](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/debugging-and-failure-analysis)
- [Open-source hardware](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/open-source-hardware)

## Most relevant to

makers and hobbyists

## Mentioned

- Magic Lantern (product)
- CHDK (product)
- Intel Boot Guard (other)
- SpySpy (product)
- ECP5 (chip)
- Coreboot (product)
- Linux Boot (product)
- Puma (product)
- Mac SE (product)
- MAME (product)
- YubiKey (product)
- Thunderstrike (other)
- AMD SEV (other)
- Intel SGX (other)
- Ikea Tradfri (product)

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