# An Interview with Josh Datko

- Show: [The Amp Hour](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour)
- Published: 2018-12-03
- Length: 1h 31m
- Episode: 418
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2018-12-03-an-interview-with-josh-datko
- Listen: https://theamphour.com/418-an-interview-with-josh-datko/

## Summary

Dave Jones, founder of Cryptotronics, discusses his transition from a U.S. Naval Academy graduate and nuclear submarine officer to an embedded security consultant. He details his experiences with military cryptography, the rigorous engineering constraints of defense contracting, and his research into hardware vulnerabilities in Bitcoin wallets like Trezor. Jones also shares anecdotes from his service in Afghanistan and explains the mechanics of hardware implants and side-channel attacks.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2018-12-03-an-interview-with-josh-datko#t=0) Introduction and Background
- [4:04](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2018-12-03-an-interview-with-josh-datko#t=244) Nuclear Submarine Service
- [21:17](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2018-12-03-an-interview-with-josh-datko#t=1277) Military Communications and Humor
- [33:08](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2018-12-03-an-interview-with-josh-datko#t=1988) Defense Contracting and Engineering
- [37:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2018-12-03-an-interview-with-josh-datko#t=2220) Tor and Anonymity Networks
- [43:24](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2018-12-03-an-interview-with-josh-datko#t=2604) Hardware Security and Glitching
- [48:12](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2018-12-03-an-interview-with-josh-datko#t=2892) Bitcoin Wallets and Cryptography
- [53:39](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2018-12-03-an-interview-with-josh-datko#t=3219) Hardware Implants and NSA Tools
- [1:00:04](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2018-12-03-an-interview-with-josh-datko#t=3604) Government Contracts and Clearance
- [1:04:18](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2018-12-03-an-interview-with-josh-datko#t=3858) Threat Modeling and Best Practices
- [1:14:08](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2018-12-03-an-interview-with-josh-datko#t=4448) Blockchain, BeefChain, and Afghanistan

## Topics

- [Security & privacy](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/security-and-privacy)
- [Embedded firmware](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/embedded-firmware)
- [Chips, FPGAs & semiconductors](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/chips-and-fpgas)
- [Careers & education](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/engineering-careers-and-education)
- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Cryptotronics (company)
- Trezor (product)
- STM32 (chip)
- Colin O'Flynn (other)
- Joe Fitzpatrick (other)
- Dimitri Nicos (other)
- Thomas Roth (other)
- BeagleBone (product)
- SparkFun (company)
- Crypto Cape (product)
- Super Micro (company)
- NSA (company)
- Bitcoin (product)
- Tor (product)
- DEF CON (other)
- CCC (other)
- DigiKey (company)
- cryptotronics.com (other)

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- [58: Use These Powers For Good](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2014-07-02-58-use-these-powers-for-good) (Embedded.fm)
- [038 - My Favorite Random Number is 5](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/unnamed-reverse-engineering-podcast/2020-08-23-038-my-favorite-random-number-is-5) (Unnamed Reverse Engineering Podcast)
- [019 - It's Still Not Magic](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/unnamed-reverse-engineering-podcast/2019-04-06-019-its-still-not-magic) (Unnamed Reverse Engineering Podcast)
- [042 - Diwali in the Morning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/unnamed-reverse-engineering-podcast/2020-11-24-042-diwali-in-the-morning) (Unnamed Reverse Engineering Podcast)

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