# Milling About

- Show: [The Amp Hour](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour)
- Published: 2017-05-31
- Length: 1h 14m
- Episode: 345
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2017-05-31-milling-about
- Listen: https://theamphour.com/show-345-milling-about/

## Summary

Chris Gammell of Contextual Electronics and Dave Jones of EEVblog discuss the practicalities of PCB milling, with Gammell sharing his experience using an Other Machine Co. mill and the safety risks of milling FR4 fiberglass. They analyze the economic viability of desktop CNC machines versus rapid prototyping services, noting that for most hobbyists, buying overnight PCBs is more cost-effective. The conversation also covers the new Avnet and Kickstarter partnership aimed at supporting hardware startups, which Jones criticizes as potentially misleading 'wank value' rather than a guarantee of success.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2017-05-31-milling-about#t=0) Introduction: Chris Gammell and Maker Faire Recap
- [2:26](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2017-05-31-milling-about#t=146) EEVblog Lab Setup: Tagano Microscope and Automation Plans
- [11:05](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2017-05-31-milling-about#t=665) Cross-Platform App Development and Bluetooth Modules
- [18:30](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2017-05-31-milling-about#t=1110) Maker Faire Tech: AI, Quantum Computing, and Automation
- [31:56](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2017-05-31-milling-about#t=1916) Bree Pettis, MakerBot, and Other Machine Co. CNC Mills
- [43:42](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2017-05-31-milling-about#t=2622) The Economics and Safety of PCB Milling
- [48:26](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2017-05-31-milling-about#t=2906) DigiKey Shipping Changes and EEVblog Educational Status
- [55:31](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2017-05-31-milling-about#t=3331) Avnet, Kickstarter, and Dragon Innovation Partnership

## Topics

- [Design for manufacturing & NPI](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/design-for-manufacturing)
- [Crowdfunding & preorders](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/crowdfunding)
- [Microcontrollers & dev platforms](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/microcontrollers-and-platforms)
- [Sourcing & supply chain](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/sourcing-and-supply-chain)
- [Prototyping & iteration](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/prototyping)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Other Machine Co. (company)
- MakerBot (company)
- Bree Pettis (other)
- Tagano (product)
- Blue Giga 112 (chip)
- Roland MDX50 (product)
- LPKF (company)
- Avnet (company)
- Kickstarter (company)
- Dragon Innovation (company)
- DigiKey (company)

## Related episodes from other shows

- [PCB Assembly and Design for Manufacturing with Duane Benson of Screaming Circuits](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/predictable-designs-podcast/2020-03-03-pcb-assembly-and-design-for-manufacturing-with-duane-benson-of-screaming-circuit) (Predictable Designs Podcast)
- [460: Everything Is Going To Be OK](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/making-it/2024-11-01-460-everything-is-going-to-be-ok) (Making It)
- [88: Science Is a Lot Like Quilting](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2015-02-12-88-science-is-a-lot-like-quilting) (Embedded.fm)
- [Chris Denney | PCB Design, Fabrication, & Manufacturing](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/being-an-engineer/2022-12-16-chris-denney-pcb-design-fabrication-manufacturing) (Being an Engineer)
- [123: Banished from Running Linux](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2015-10-28-123-banished-from-running-linux) (Embedded.fm)

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