# Work on it for 10 years...

- Show: [The Amp Hour](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour)
- Published: 2016-12-30
- Length: 1h 42m
- Episode: 329
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2016-12-30-work-on-it-for-10-years
- Listen: https://theamphour.com/329-work-on-it-for-10-years/

## Summary

Eliseo White and Chris White of Embedded.fm join Chris Gammell of Contextual Electronics to discuss skill improvement, the importance of deliberate practice, and the challenges of learning electronics and programming. They debate the best ways to teach engineering fundamentals, the limitations of prototyping platforms like MicroPython and Arduino, and the transition from hobbyist projects to manufacturable products. The conversation also covers their personal interests, including 3D printing, VR, and solar energy, while highlighting the gap between building a prototype and shipping a reliable product.

## Chapters

- [0:10](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2016-12-30-work-on-it-for-10-years#t=10) Introduction and Holiday Spectacle
- [6:10](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2016-12-30-work-on-it-for-10-years#t=370) Learning and Expertise
- [10:11](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2016-12-30-work-on-it-for-10-years#t=611) Lightning Round and Prototyping Tools
- [19:35](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2016-12-30-work-on-it-for-10-years#t=1175) Teaching Electronics and Programming
- [32:39](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2016-12-30-work-on-it-for-10-years#t=1959) Analog Circuits and MicroPython Limitations
- [42:37](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2016-12-30-work-on-it-for-10-years#t=2557) Writing and Technical Communication
- [56:51](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2016-12-30-work-on-it-for-10-years#t=3411) 3D Printing and CAD
- [1:12:42](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2016-12-30-work-on-it-for-10-years#t=4362) VR, Solar Energy, and Automation
- [1:23:34](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2016-12-30-work-on-it-for-10-years#t=5014) Prototype to Production Challenges
- [1:27:40](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2016-12-30-work-on-it-for-10-years#t=5260) Calculus and Deliberate Practice

## Topics

- [Careers & education](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/engineering-careers-and-education)
- [Prototyping & iteration](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/prototyping)
- [Microcontrollers & dev platforms](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/microcontrollers-and-platforms)
- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)
- [Energy & climate tech](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/energy-and-climate-tech)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies, companies scaling up

## Mentioned

- Embedded.fm (company)
- Contextual Electronics (company)
- Arduino (product)
- MicroPython (product)
- Analog Discovery (tool)
- Saleae (tool)
- Fusion 360 (tool)
- BeagleBone (product)
- Raspberry Pi (product)
- ESP8266 (chip)
- ESP32 (chip)
- nRF52 (chip)
- LulzBot Mini (product)
- Monoprice Mini (product)
- Flybricks (product)
- Tesla (company)
- SpaceX (company)
- HemingwayApp (tool)

## Related episodes from other shows

- [181: Work on It for Ten Years](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2016-12-30-181-work-on-it-for-ten-years) (Embedded.fm)
- [351: Dextral or Sinistral](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2020-11-13-351-dextral-or-sinistral) (Embedded.fm)
- [144: Asking For Clippy](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2016-03-23-144-asking-for-clippy) (Embedded.fm)
- [191: What, Yogurt!?!](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2017-03-15-191-what-yogurt) (Embedded.fm)
- [228: Pedantic or Andrantic](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2018-01-03-228-pedantic-or-andrantic) (Embedded.fm)

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