# An Interview with Joe and Mark Garrison - Subtly Spelling SayLeeAy

- Show: [The Amp Hour](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour)
- Published: 2015-02-19
- Length: 1h 36m
- Episode: 237
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2015-02-19-an-interview-with-joe-and-mark-garrison-subtly-spelling-sayleeay
- Listen: https://theamphour.com/237-an-interview-with-joe-and-mark-garrison-subtly-spelling-sayleeay/

## Summary

Joe and Mark Garrison, founders of Salie, discuss the challenges of scaling their logic analyzer business, including a failed attempt at in-house PCB assembly and the impact of counterfeit clones. They detail the complex FPGA design for their Logic Pro 16, focusing on signal processing, filter implementation, and timing constraints. The conversation also covers their software architecture, cross-platform development, and strategies for protecting intellectual property against hardware cloning.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2015-02-19-an-interview-with-joe-and-mark-garrison-subtly-spelling-sayleeay#t=0) Introduction and Company History
- [13:18](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2015-02-19-an-interview-with-joe-and-mark-garrison-subtly-spelling-sayleeay#t=798) Cash Flow and Financial Challenges
- [20:32](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2015-02-19-an-interview-with-joe-and-mark-garrison-subtly-spelling-sayleeay#t=1232) In-House Manufacturing Missteps
- [1:10:07](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2015-02-19-an-interview-with-joe-and-mark-garrison-subtly-spelling-sayleeay#t=4207) FPGA Design and Signal Processing
- [55:49](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2015-02-19-an-interview-with-joe-and-mark-garrison-subtly-spelling-sayleeay#t=3349) Clone Protection and IP Strategy

## Topics

- [Scaling production](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/scaling-production)
- [Microcontrollers & dev platforms](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/microcontrollers-and-platforms)
- [Embedded firmware](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/embedded-firmware)
- [Intellectual property](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/intellectual-property)
- [Pricing, margins & unit economics](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/pricing-and-unit-economics)

## Most relevant to

companies scaling up

## Mentioned

- Salie (company)
- Logic Pro 16 (product)
- Logic 8 (product)
- Cypress FX2 (chip)
- Xilinx Spartan 6 (chip)
- Hittite (company)
- Analog Devices (company)
- Juki (company)
- Mancorp (company)
- SparkFun (company)
- Avnet (company)
- DigiKey (company)
- QuickBooks (tool)
- NetSuite (tool)
- Sigrok (product)

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