# Warming Up To IoT - Tendentious Thermal Tools

- Show: [The Amp Hour](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour)
- Published: 2014-10-22
- Length: 1h 14m
- Episode: 221
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2014-10-22-warming-up-to-iot-tendentious-thermal-tools
- Listen: https://theamphour.com/221-warming-up-to-iot-tendentious-thermal-tools/

## Summary

Dave Jones and Chris Gammell discuss the evolution of hardware tools, contrasting the complexity of modern four-layer PCBs with older two-layer designs, and the rise of accessible IoT platforms like the Electric Imp, Spark, and Blue Bean. They critique the Anonabox Kickstarter for its dishonesty, highlighting the risks of crowdfunding, while exploring the privacy implications of data collected by devices like the Nest thermostat and Dropcam. The conversation also covers the challenges of building hardware startups outside major tech hubs, emphasizing the critical need for local talent pools in cities like Silicon Valley versus Akron, Ohio.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2014-10-22-warming-up-to-iot-tendentious-thermal-tools#t=0) Introduction: Dave Jones and Chris Gammell
- [2:03](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2014-10-22-warming-up-to-iot-tendentious-thermal-tools#t=123) Reverse Engineering Rigol Oscilloscopes and PCB Layers
- [9:21](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2014-10-22-warming-up-to-iot-tendentious-thermal-tools#t=561) Judging the Hackaday Prize and Project Evaluation
- [18:33](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2014-10-22-warming-up-to-iot-tendentious-thermal-tools#t=1113) Building Reflow Ovens and Pick and Place Machines
- [25:05](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2014-10-22-warming-up-to-iot-tendentious-thermal-tools#t=1505) Reviewing IoT Hardware: SparkFun RedBot, Blue Bean, and Electric Imp
- [31:51](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2014-10-22-warming-up-to-iot-tendentious-thermal-tools#t=1911) The Anonabox Kickstarter Scandal and Honesty in Crowdfunding
- [52:20](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2014-10-22-warming-up-to-iot-tendentious-thermal-tools#t=3140) IoT Privacy: Nest, Dropcam, and Data Collection
- [1:02:32](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2014-10-22-warming-up-to-iot-tendentious-thermal-tools#t=3752) Hardware Startup Culture and Talent Location

## Topics

- [Connected products & IoT](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/connected-products-and-iot)
- [Crowdfunding & preorders](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/crowdfunding)
- [Security & privacy](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/security-and-privacy)
- [PCB design & layout](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/pcb-design)
- [Starting a product company](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/starting-a-company)
- [Prototyping & iteration](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/prototyping)

## Most relevant to

makers and hobbyists

## Mentioned

- Rigol (product)
- Hackaday Prize (other)
- Electric Imp (product)
- Spark (product)
- Blue Bean (product)
- Anonabox (product)
- Nest (product)
- Dropcam (product)
- SparkFun RedBot (product)
- Zalman (product)

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- [31: If You See a Dongle Run Away](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/embedded-fm/2013-12-19-31-if-you-see-a-dongle-run-away) (Embedded.fm)
- [#015 - How to benefit for your hardware project from the first major crowdfunding platform, with Sandy Diao of Indiegogo, USA](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-hardware-entrepreneur/2017-03-01-015-how-to-benefit-for-your-hardware-project-from-the-first-major-crowdfunding-p) (The Hardware Entrepreneur)
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