# Boeing, PCBs & Startups - Awful Airplane Aeration

- Show: [The Amp Hour](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour)
- Published: 2013-01-29
- Length: 1h 14m
- Episode: 130
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2013-01-29-boeing-pcbs-startups-awful-airplane-aeration
- Listen: https://theamphour.com/the-amp-hour-130-awful-airplane-aeration/

## Summary

Hosts Chris Gammell and Dave Jones discuss the Boeing 787 battery fires, analyzing the failure of the Tally's battery system and the complexities of aerospace systems engineering. They review CircuitHub, a Y Combinator-backed startup that syncs PCB footprints via Dropbox, and evaluate FounderDating.com as a tool for finding startup co-founders. The episode also covers the consolidation of the chip industry, the low power consumption of the Fluke 27 multimeter, and the manufacturing ecosystem in Shenzhen.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2013-01-29-boeing-pcbs-startups-awful-airplane-aeration#t=0) Introduction and National Instruments Acquisition
- [32:06](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2013-01-29-boeing-pcbs-startups-awful-airplane-aeration#t=1926) Boeing 787 Battery Failures and Systems Engineering
- [13:54](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2013-01-29-boeing-pcbs-startups-awful-airplane-aeration#t=834) CircuitHub: Dropbox-Integrated PCB Footprints
- [21:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2013-01-29-boeing-pcbs-startups-awful-airplane-aeration#t=1260) FounderDating.com and Startup Networking
- [51:31](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2013-01-29-boeing-pcbs-startups-awful-airplane-aeration#t=3091) Multimeter Battery Life and Chip Industry Consolidation
- [1:01:46](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2013-01-29-boeing-pcbs-startups-awful-airplane-aeration#t=3706) Shenzhen Manufacturing Ecosystem and Low-Cost Design

## Topics

- [Batteries & low-power design](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/batteries-and-low-power)
- [EDA & CAD tools](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/eda-and-cad-tools)
- [Manufacturing partners & offshoring](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/manufacturing-partners)
- [Starting a product company](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/starting-a-company)
- [Chips, FPGAs & semiconductors](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/chips-and-fpgas)
- [Pricing, margins & unit economics](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/pricing-and-unit-economics)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies, companies scaling up

## Mentioned

- Boeing (company)
- Tally's (company)
- CircuitHub (company)
- National Instruments (company)
- DigiLent (company)
- Altium (company)
- Eagle (company)
- KiCad (company)
- Dropbox (company)
- FounderDating.com (company)
- Fluke (company)
- Hioki (company)
- Tektronix (company)
- Huawei (company)
- MIT Media Lab (company)
- Boldport (company)
- Project Euler (company)
- MATLAB (tool)
- Octave (tool)
- Fluke 27 (product)
- Hioki 3208 (product)
- Analog Discovery (product)
- LTspice (tool)
- Tina (tool)
- LabWindows CVI (tool)
- Arduino (product)
- 6502 (chip)
- MSP430 (chip)

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