# STL360: Veneer Glue—Stirred, Not Shaken

- Show: [Shop Talk Live](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live)
- Published: 2026-02-20
- Length: 1h 10m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2026-02-20-stl360-veneer-glue-stirred-not-shaken
- Listen: https://shoptalklive.podcast.static.taunton.com/stl360-veneer-gluestirred-not-shaken

## Summary

Steve Der-Garabedian, author of 'Veneering Essentials', joins hosts Vic and Ben to demystify veneering, discussing why it eliminates wood movement and extends resources like White Ash. The conversation covers practical techniques, including the use of Vacuum Press pumps, Roar Rocket manual pumps, and specific tools like Freud veneer blades and track saws for clean cuts. Der-Garabedian emphasizes the importance of stirring Type 1 cold press glue rather than shaking it, and explains how to manage veneer tape, masking tape, and substrate choices like MDF and Baltic birch to avoid warping.

## Chapters

- [0:07](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2026-02-20-stl360-veneer-glue-stirred-not-shaken#t=7) Introduction: Show format changes and Steve Der-Garabedian
- [8:09](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2026-02-20-stl360-veneer-glue-stirred-not-shaken#t=489) Why veneer is important: Wood movement and environmental benefits
- [10:19](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2026-02-20-stl360-veneer-glue-stirred-not-shaken#t=619) Vacuum pumps: Vacuum Press, Roar Rocket, and budget options
- [19:59](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2026-02-20-stl360-veneer-glue-stirred-not-shaken#t=1199) Veneering a box: Substrate, assembly order, and joinery
- [23:49](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2026-02-20-stl360-veneer-glue-stirred-not-shaken#t=1429) Veneer tape vs. masking tape and jointing techniques
- [40:54](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2026-02-20-stl360-veneer-glue-stirred-not-shaken#t=2454) Burl veneer: Crossbanding, stability, and substrate choices
- [1:02:33](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2026-02-20-stl360-veneer-glue-stirred-not-shaken#t=3753) Stirring glue: The fly swatter hack and final thoughts

## Topics

- [Materials & manufacturing processes](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/materials-and-processes)
- [Prototyping & iteration](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/prototyping)
- [Industrial & consumer product design](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/industrial-design)
- [Sourcing & supply chain](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/sourcing-and-supply-chain)

## Most relevant to

makers and hobbyists

## Mentioned

- Vacuum Press (company)
- Roar Rocket (product)
- Freud (other)
- Type 1 Cold Press (other)
- Unibond One (other)
- Veneering Essentials (product)
- Cedar Lane Press (company)

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