# STL338: BVD's Lasagna Couch

- Show: [Shop Talk Live](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live)
- Published: 2025-04-04
- Length: 1h 03m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2025-04-04-stl338-bvds-lasagna-couch
- Listen: https://shoptalklive.podcast.static.taunton.com/stl338-bvds-lasagna-couch

## Summary

Mike Mascelli and Bob Van Dyke discuss the upcoming Fine Woodworking New England event, detailing the expansion to two tents and 20 speakers, including Bill Pavlock and Frank Straza. Bob Van Dyke explains the history of his school's partnership with Woodcraft and the evolution of his teaching, while Mike Mascelli addresses common woodworking mistakes, specifically the failure to coordinate with upholsterers during the design phase. The conversation covers the technical differences between sprung and unsprung seats, the longevity of period furniture, and the practical use of tools like the L-fence and aerosol shellac.

## Chapters

- [0:07](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2025-04-04-stl338-bvds-lasagna-couch#t=7) Introduction: Fine Woodworking New England Event Overview
- [3:26](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2025-04-04-stl338-bvds-lasagna-couch#t=206) Event Logistics: Speakers, Tents, and Antique Dealers
- [8:41](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2025-04-04-stl338-bvds-lasagna-couch#t=521) Mike Mascelli's Presentation: Varnish and Upholstery
- [17:54](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2025-04-04-stl338-bvds-lasagna-couch#t=1074) Bob Van Dyke: History of the School and Woodcraft Partnership
- [25:08](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2025-04-04-stl338-bvds-lasagna-couch#t=1508) Upholstery Design: Mistakes and Coordination with Woodworkers
- [33:23](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2025-04-04-stl338-bvds-lasagna-couch#t=2003) Period Furniture: Longevity, Apprenticeships, and Modern Techniques
- [51:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2025-04-04-stl338-bvds-lasagna-couch#t=3060) Tools and Finishes: L-Fence and Aerosol Shellac
- [59:03](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2025-04-04-stl338-bvds-lasagna-couch#t=3543) Closing: The Lasagna Couch Metaphor and Event Details

## Topics

- [Industrial & consumer product design](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/industrial-design)
- [Materials & manufacturing processes](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/materials-and-processes)
- [Scaling production](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/scaling-production)
- [Careers & education](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/engineering-careers-and-education)
- [Fabrication & craft](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/fabrication-and-craft)

## Most relevant to

established companies

## Mentioned

- Fine Woodworking New England (other)
- Woodcraft (company)
- Colonial Williamsburg (other)
- Lee Nielsen (company)
- Stanley Weiss Collection (other)
- Zenzer (company)
- L-fence (tool)
- HVLP (tool)

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