# STL321: One podcast, two Mikes.

- Show: [Shop Talk Live](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live)
- Published: 2024-07-26
- Length: 1h 18m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2024-07-26-stl321-one-podcast-two-mikes
- Listen: https://shoptalklive.podcast.static.taunton.com/stl321-two-mikes-one-podcast

## Summary

Mike Mascelli, a finishing and upholstery expert, joins Ben Strano to discuss shellac application techniques, the benefits of French polishing, and the use of flexible epoxies like G-Flex for upholstery repair. Mike Pakovich then joins Amanda Russell to define 'fine furniture' versus 'pro-level' work, emphasizing design cohesion, material selection, and the importance of foundational skills like milling and sanding. The episode also promotes an upcoming e-learning course by Mascelli and the Woodworking in America 2024 event.

## Chapters

- [0:06](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2024-07-26-stl321-one-podcast-two-mikes#t=6) Introduction: Shop Talk Live Episode 321
- [7:43](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2024-07-26-stl321-one-podcast-two-mikes#t=463) Mike Mascelli on Shellac, French Polishing, and Finishing Myths
- [26:13](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2024-07-26-stl321-one-podcast-two-mikes#t=1573) Using G-Flex Epoxy for Upholstery Frame Repair
- [30:15](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2024-07-26-stl321-one-podcast-two-mikes#t=1815) Upholstery Techniques: Woven Cane, Cord, and Frame Design
- [47:21](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2024-07-26-stl321-one-podcast-two-mikes#t=2841) Mike Pakovich Defines Fine Furniture vs. Pro-Level Work
- [1:02:31](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2024-07-26-stl321-one-podcast-two-mikes#t=3751) The Value of Apprenticeship and Foundational Skills
- [1:17:27](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2024-07-26-stl321-one-podcast-two-mikes#t=4647) Conclusion: E-Learning Course and Woodworking in America 2024

## Topics

- [Materials & manufacturing processes](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/materials-and-processes)
- [Industrial & consumer product design](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/industrial-design)
- [Careers & education](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/engineering-careers-and-education)
- [Fabrication & craft](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/fabrication-and-craft)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Mike Mascelli (other)
- Mike Pakovich (other)
- G-Flex (other)
- West System (other)
- System Three (other)
- Singer Basic Upholstery (other)
- Upholstery: A Complete Course (other)
- Decainer's Handbook (other)
- Woodworking in America 2024 (other)

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