# STL301: Those goggles ain't gonna cut it

- Show: [Shop Talk Live](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live)
- Published: 2023-10-06
- Length: 1h 07m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2023-10-06-stl301-those-goggles-aint-gonna-cut-it
- Listen: https://shoptalklive.podcast.static.taunton.com/stl301-those-goggles-aint-gonna-cut-it

## Summary

Host Ben Martin, along with guests Vic Tesolin and Mike Pekovich, discusses vacuum bagging for bent laminations, coping and fret saw blade orientation, and the safety and techniques of ammonia fuming. Vic Tesolin, who is partnering with Melbourne Tool Company to bring their hand planes to North America, shares insights on tool design and Australian woodworking. The team advises on selecting appropriate vacuum bag sizes and materials, noting that polyurethane bags are more durable but expensive compared to vinyl. They also debate whether coping and fret saws should cut on the push or pull stroke, with Mike Pekovich advocating for pull-stroke setups on high-quality frames for better control. Finally, they address the dangers of industrial-strength ammonia, emphasizing the need for proper respirators and sealed goggles, as standard safety goggles fail to protect against the fumes.

## Chapters

- [0:06](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2023-10-06-stl301-those-goggles-aint-gonna-cut-it#t=6) Introduction: Ben Martin, Vic Tesolin, and Mike Pekovich
- [3:18](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2023-10-06-stl301-those-goggles-aint-gonna-cut-it#t=198) Vic Tesolin and Melbourne Tool Company Partnership
- [10:51](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2023-10-06-stl301-those-goggles-aint-gonna-cut-it#t=651) Vacuum Bagging for Bent Laminations and Veneering
- [24:33](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2023-10-06-stl301-those-goggles-aint-gonna-cut-it#t=1473) Coping and Fret Saw Blade Orientation and Usage
- [37:28](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2023-10-06-stl301-those-goggles-aint-gonna-cut-it#t=2248) Frustrations with Radius Dishes and Industrial Planers
- [50:54](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2023-10-06-stl301-those-goggles-aint-gonna-cut-it#t=3054) Ammonia Fuming Safety, Techniques, and Color Matching

## Topics

- [Materials & manufacturing processes](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/materials-and-processes)
- [Industrial & consumer product design](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/industrial-design)
- [Sourcing & supply chain](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/sourcing-and-supply-chain)
- [Sustainability & circular products](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/sustainability-and-circularity)
- [Careers & education](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/engineering-careers-and-education)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Melbourne Tool Company (company)
- Roar Rocket (company)
- Olsen Saw (company)
- Craftsman (other)
- Unibond 800 (other)
- Monocote (other)

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