# STL283: The original Moxon vise

- Show: [Shop Talk Live](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live)
- Published: 2023-01-27
- Length: 1h 10m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2023-01-27-stl283-the-original-moxon-vise
- Listen: https://shoptalklive.podcast.static.taunton.com/stl283-the-original-moxon-vise

## Summary

Mike and Vic discuss whether a beginner woodworker should build a workbench or a tool chest first, concluding that a sturdy workbench takes precedence for immediate utility. They analyze the pros and cons of wall-mounted cabinets versus portable tool chests, noting that chests are better for transient woodworkers while wall storage suits stationary shops. The hosts also provide guidance on finishing, recommending simple methods like shellac and wiping varnish with basic applicators, and warn against the fire hazard of storing linseed oil-soaked rags in enclosed containers. Finally, they address the ethics of selling defective tools, agreeing that full disclosure of flaws is mandatory to avoid endangering or frustrating new woodworkers.

## Chapters

- [0:04](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2023-01-27-stl283-the-original-moxon-vise#t=4) Introduction and Course Promotions
- [2:37](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2023-01-27-stl283-the-original-moxon-vise#t=157) Workbench vs. Tool Chest: Which to Build First
- [9:51](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2023-01-27-stl283-the-original-moxon-vise#t=591) Wall Cabinets vs. Portable Tool Chests
- [17:33](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2023-01-27-stl283-the-original-moxon-vise#t=1053) Choosing a First Workbench: Simple vs. Dream Bench
- [25:33](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2023-01-27-stl283-the-original-moxon-vise#t=1533) Finishing Techniques and Applicator Choices
- [44:48](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2023-01-27-stl283-the-original-moxon-vise#t=2688) Safety Warning: Linseed Oil and Spontaneous Combustion
- [49:09](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2023-01-27-stl283-the-original-moxon-vise#t=2949) Modern Workholding: Festool MFT and Alternative Benches
- [1:01:06](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2023-01-27-stl283-the-original-moxon-vise#t=3666) Ethics of Selling Defective Tools

## Topics

- [Prototyping & iteration](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/prototyping)
- [Materials & manufacturing processes](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/materials-and-processes)
- [Sourcing & supply chain](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/sourcing-and-supply-chain)
- [Maker community & events](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/maker-community)

## Most relevant to

makers and hobbyists

## Mentioned

- Black and Decker Workmate (product)
- Festool MFT (product)
- Rubio Monocoat (product)
- Osmo (product)
- DeWalt 735 (product)

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