# STL212: The call of the pattern-maker's vise

- Show: [Shop Talk Live](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live)
- Published: 2020-03-27
- Length: 58m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2020-03-27-stl212-the-call-of-the-pattern-makers-vise
- Listen: https://shoptalklive.podcast.static.taunton.com/stl212-the-call-of-the-pattern-makers-vise

## Summary

Hosts Mike Dunbar, Ben Martin, and David Diyard discuss woodworking challenges, starting with Mike's recent failure to finish a prototype Arts & Crafts chair due to poor grain selection on plain-sawn stock. The panel advises on using cheap pine for learning versus high-quality lumber, and debates the value of coveted tools like the Gordon pattern maker's vise and Souren Steiner planes. They also recommend the Bridge City Chopstick Master and discuss the practicalities of building a new workbench with a leg vice versus using an existing pattern maker's vise.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2020-03-27-stl212-the-call-of-the-pattern-makers-vise#t=0) Introduction and Mike's Finishing Failure
- [8:46](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2020-03-27-stl212-the-call-of-the-pattern-makers-vise#t=526) Using Cheap Pine for Learning vs. Quality Lumber
- [15:21](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2020-03-27-stl212-the-call-of-the-pattern-makers-vise#t=921) Coveted Tools: Gordon Vise and Steiner Planes
- [23:23](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2020-03-27-stl212-the-call-of-the-pattern-makers-vise#t=1403) Review of the Bridge City Chopstick Master
- [34:09](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2020-03-27-stl212-the-call-of-the-pattern-makers-vise#t=2049) Choosing a Workbench Vice: Leg Vice vs. Pattern Maker's Vise
- [45:47](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2020-03-27-stl212-the-call-of-the-pattern-makers-vise#t=2747) Advice on Buying and Sharpening Chisels

## Topics

- [Materials & manufacturing processes](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/materials-and-processes)
- [Fabrication & craft](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/fabrication-and-craft)
- [Careers & education](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/engineering-careers-and-education)
- [Maker community & events](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/maker-community)

## Most relevant to

makers and hobbyists

## Mentioned

- Bridge City Toolworks (company)
- Bridge City Chopstick Master (product)
- Gordon pattern maker's vise (tool)
- Souren Steiner (other)
- Brian Boggs (other)
- Caleb James (other)
- Pony Jorgenson (company)
- Veritas PMV 11 (product)
- Stanley 650 (product)
- Tormek (tool)
- Garrett Wade (company)
- Inca machinery (tool)
- Marble chisels (product)

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