# STL 146: Drying lumber and squashing squeeze-out

- Show: [Shop Talk Live](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live)
- Published: 2017-09-15
- Length: 54m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2017-09-15-stl-146-drying-lumber-and-squashing-squeeze-out
- Listen: https://shoptalklive.podcast.static.taunton.com/stl-146-drying-lumber-and-squashing-squeeze-out

## Summary

Host Tom McKenna and contributors Mike Pekovich, Matt Kenney, and Ben Strano discuss woodworking techniques, starting with advice on acclimating lumber in garage shops and using moisture meters to check for humidity differences. The group details methods for creating even drawer reveals, including using a shoulder plane to relieve the bottom edge, and shares 'all-time favorite' techniques like using a chisel's flat back for flush paring and spacer blocks for double mortise and tenon joints. They also address finishing issues with cutting boards, suggesting high-grit sanding to minimize darkening, and troubleshooting glue squeeze-out in box making by sizing joints and using sharp chisels. The episode concludes with 'smooth moves' (failures), including a broken joint from expired liquid hide glue and a near-miss with a drill press chuck key.

## Chapters

- [0:27](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2017-09-15-stl-146-drying-lumber-and-squashing-squeeze-out#t=27) Introduction: Shop Talk Live Team and Acclimating Lumber
- [8:54](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2017-09-15-stl-146-drying-lumber-and-squashing-squeeze-out#t=534) Drawer Reveals and Shoulder Plane Techniques
- [13:09](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2017-09-15-stl-146-drying-lumber-and-squashing-squeeze-out#t=789) All-Time Favorite: Chisel Paring and Spacer Blocks
- [28:01](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2017-09-15-stl-146-drying-lumber-and-squashing-squeeze-out#t=1681) Cutting Board Finishing and Wood Color Stability
- [33:28](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2017-09-15-stl-146-drying-lumber-and-squashing-squeeze-out#t=2008) Managing Glue Squeeze-Out in Box Making
- [40:35](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2017-09-15-stl-146-drying-lumber-and-squashing-squeeze-out#t=2435) Smooth Moves: Reference Surfaces and Expired Hide Glue

## Topics

- [Materials & manufacturing processes](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/materials-and-processes)
- [Mechanical engineering](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/mechanical-engineering)
- [Debugging & failure analysis](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/debugging-and-failure-analysis)
- [Sourcing & supply chain](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/sourcing-and-supply-chain)
- [Fabrication & craft](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/fabrication-and-craft)

## Most relevant to

makers and hobbyists

## Mentioned

- Mike Pekovich (other)
- Matt Kenney (other)
- Steve Latter (other)
- Philo (other)
- Tim Coleman (other)
- Tim Rousseau (other)
- Stan Krenov (other)
- Marsh (other)
- Douglas (other)
- Bob Van Dyke (other)
- Fine Woodworking (company)

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