# STL 72: Another Tablesaw Lawsuit

- Show: [Shop Talk Live](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live)
- Published: 2014-11-14
- Length: 1h 19m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2014-11-14-stl-72-another-tablesaw-lawsuit
- Listen: https://shoptalklive.libsyn.com/stl-72-another-tablesaw-lawsuit

## Summary

Shop Talk Live hosts interview attorney John Bell and SawStop inventor Steve Gass regarding a recent not-guilty verdict for Ryobi in a table saw liability suit and the impending launch of SawStop's new portable job site saw. Bell explains that the defense succeeded by clarifying the legal standard that manufacturers must produce non-defective products, not necessarily the safest possible ones, while Gass discusses the economic justification for his flesh-detection technology and the challenges of CPSC regulation. Gass also announces the details of his new $1,299 portable saw, highlighting its unique features and the modest manufacturing cost increase to incorporate the safety system.

## Chapters

- [0:06](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2014-11-14-stl-72-another-tablesaw-lawsuit#t=6) Introduction and Case Background
- [8:50](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2014-11-14-stl-72-another-tablesaw-lawsuit#t=530) John Bell on the Duluth Verdict and Legal Standards
- [20:38](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2014-11-14-stl-72-another-tablesaw-lawsuit#t=1238) The Role of UL Standards and CPSC Regulation
- [35:32](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2014-11-14-stl-72-another-tablesaw-lawsuit#t=2132) Steve Gass on SawStop's Origin and Prototype
- [46:35](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2014-11-14-stl-72-another-tablesaw-lawsuit#t=2795) Announcing the New Portable SawStop Job Site Saw
- [52:19](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/shop-talk-live/2014-11-14-stl-72-another-tablesaw-lawsuit#t=3139) Economic Justification and Patent Monopoly Concerns

## Topics

- [Policy, trade & tariffs](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/policy-trade-and-tariffs)
- [Intellectual property](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/intellectual-property)
- [Pricing, margins & unit economics](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/pricing-and-unit-economics)
- [Prototyping & iteration](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/prototyping)
- [Starting a product company](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/starting-a-company)

## Most relevant to

companies scaling up

## Mentioned

- SawStop (company)
- Ryobi (company)
- One World Technologies (company)
- UL 987 (other)
- CPSC (other)
- Bosch 4100 (product)

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