# 152: Three Main Problems When Scaling a Hardware Startup

- Show: [Product Startup](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/product-startup)
- Published: 2022-12-01
- Length: 22m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/product-startup/2022-12-01-152-three-main-problems-when-scaling-a-hardware-startup
- Listen: https://productstartup.com/

## Summary

Brad Pedersen, co-founder of Pila and creator of the Lomi smart waste appliance, shares lessons from his 27-year career in hardware, including a previous failed toy business. He identifies people, systems, and cash as the three critical areas that must be continuously reinvented to scale a hardware startup successfully. Pedersen emphasizes hiring specialists who are smarter than the founder, implementing robust operational systems early, and managing cash flow creatively to avoid the pitfalls of rapid growth.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/product-startup/2022-12-01-152-three-main-problems-when-scaling-a-hardware-startup#t=0) Introduction and Brad Pedersen's Background
- [3:49](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/product-startup/2022-12-01-152-three-main-problems-when-scaling-a-hardware-startup#t=229) The Three Scaling Pillars: People, Systems, Cash
- [6:58](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/product-startup/2022-12-01-152-three-main-problems-when-scaling-a-hardware-startup#t=418) Hiring Specialists and Overcoming Founder Bottlenecks
- [11:09](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/product-startup/2022-12-01-152-three-main-problems-when-scaling-a-hardware-startup#t=669) Building Operational Systems and Data Integrity
- [12:40](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/product-startup/2022-12-01-152-three-main-problems-when-scaling-a-hardware-startup#t=760) Category Design and Team Standards
- [17:03](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/product-startup/2022-12-01-152-three-main-problems-when-scaling-a-hardware-startup#t=1023) Cash Flow Management and Funding Strategies

## Topics

- [Scaling production](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/scaling-production)
- [Hiring & workforce](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/hiring-and-workforce)
- [Factory operations & automation](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/factory-operations)
- [Fundraising & investors](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/fundraising)

## Most relevant to

companies scaling up

## Mentioned

- Lomi (product)
- Pila (company)
- Mako Design + Invent (company)
- Last Dance (other)

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