# 307 - Prepare for the depression of the 2030's and other takeaways from Day 1 at the TLMI conference

- Show: [People of Packaging](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging)
- Published: 2025-03-10
- Length: 18m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging/2025-03-10-307-prepare-for-the-depression-of-the-2030s-and-other-takeaways-from-day-1-at-th
- Listen: https://encase.substack.com/p/307-prepare-for-the-depression-of

## Summary

Adam Peek reports from the TLMI conference in San Antonio, summarizing economist Alan Beaulieu’s forecast of strong growth through 2029 followed by a potential depression in the early 2030s driven by debt and supply chain uncertainty. He then covers Corey Francor’s presentation on digital printing, highlighting how brands prioritize variable data and online ordering capabilities over mere printing technology. The episode emphasizes that packaging suppliers must provide documented sustainability data and regulatory compliance to meet brand demands, while leveraging efficiency tools like AI to prepare for labor shortages and economic downturns.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging/2025-03-10-307-prepare-for-the-depression-of-the-2030s-and-other-takeaways-from-day-1-at-th#t=0) Introduction: TLMI Conference and Alan Beaulieu's Economic Forecast

## Topics

- [Policy, trade & tariffs](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/policy-trade-and-tariffs)
- [Hiring & workforce](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/hiring-and-workforce)
- [Sustainability & circular products](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/sustainability-and-circularity)
- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)
- [Manufacturing partners & offshoring](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/manufacturing-partners)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- TLMI (other)
- Alan Beaulieu (other)
- Corey Francor (other)
- NAPCO (company)
- Specright (tool)
- Domino (company)
- Durst (company)
- HP (company)
- Zycon (company)
- Mark Andy (company)

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