# 249 - Cali compostabull and Pistakio Packaging 911

- Show: [People of Packaging](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging)
- Published: 2024-03-14
- Length: 36m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging/2024-03-14-249-cali-compostabull-and-pistakio-packaging-911
- Listen: https://encase.substack.com/p/249-cali-compostabull-and-pistakio

## Summary

Hosts Adam Matos and Corey Connors discuss the regulatory risks of compostable packaging in California, noting that industrial facilities reject many certified materials. They then interview Fran and Nico from Pistachio, a startup whose glass jars are breaking during shipping due to inadequate custom box inserts. The hosts advise the founders to use stock cushioning like Scotch Cushion Lock, perform ISTA testing, and negotiate credits with their packaging supplier for the failed design.

## Chapters

- [0:02](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging/2024-03-14-249-cali-compostabull-and-pistakio-packaging-911#t=2) Introduction and Daylight Saving Time Banter
- [7:22](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging/2024-03-14-249-cali-compostabull-and-pistakio-packaging-911#t=442) Compostable Packaging Regulations in California
- [14:43](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging/2024-03-14-249-cali-compostabull-and-pistakio-packaging-911#t=883) Pistachio Packaging 911: The Problem
- [17:51](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging/2024-03-14-249-cali-compostabull-and-pistakio-packaging-911#t=1071) Solutions: Stock Materials and Testing
- [23:09](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging/2024-03-14-249-cali-compostabull-and-pistakio-packaging-911#t=1389) Startup Lessons and Supplier Negotiation

## Topics

- [Packaging design](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/packaging-design)
- [Sustainability & circular products](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/sustainability-and-circularity)
- [Quality & yield](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/quality-and-yield)
- [Scaling production](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/scaling-production)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Pistachio (company)
- Scotch Cushion Lock (product)
- ISTA (other)
- Labl (company)
- SmartSolve (company)
- Wolmi (company)
- Meyers Printing (company)

## Related episodes from other shows

- [Ep. 30 - Avoiding Packaging Mistakes](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/open-hardware-manufacturing-podcast/2024-10-10-ep-30-avoiding-packaging-mistakes) (Open Hardware Manufacturing Podcast)
- [Packaging Validation Best Practices](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/global-medical-device-podcast/2022-09-07-packaging-validation-best-practices) (Global Medical Device Podcast)
- [8: Packaging](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2016-01-28-8-packaging) (Thoroughly Considered)
- [72: All Roads Lead to a Heat Sealed Pouch](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2021-09-22-72-all-roads-lead-to-a-heat-sealed-pouch) (Thoroughly Considered)
- [40: Agglomerated Cork](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/thoroughly-considered/2018-08-03-40-agglomerated-cork) (Thoroughly Considered)

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