# 218 - Big news for hydrogen in the USA with Phil Clark and Kevin Wyss

- Show: [People of Packaging](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging)
- Published: 2023-10-13
- Length: 43m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging/2023-10-13-218-big-news-for-hydrogen-in-the-usa-with-phil-clark-and-kevin-wyss
- Listen: https://encase.substack.com/p/218-big-news-for-hydrogen-in-the

## Summary

Phil Clark, founder of Omitz, and Kevin Wyss, a Rice University PhD graduate, discuss the US Department of Energy's $7 billion hydrogen hub initiative and Wyss's technology to convert mixed plastic waste into graphene and clean hydrogen. Wyss explains his ultrafast heating process, which breaks down plastic bonds to create high-value graphene and pure hydrogen without CO2 emissions, while Clark highlights the economic and safety implications for the hydrogen industry. The conversation covers the scalability of the process through Universal Matter, the lifecycle assessment of the technology, and its potential to create a circular economy for packaging waste.

## Chapters

- [0:10](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging/2023-10-13-218-big-news-for-hydrogen-in-the-usa-with-phil-clark-and-kevin-wyss#t=10) Introduction: Specright Sponsor and Show Overview
- [3:35](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging/2023-10-13-218-big-news-for-hydrogen-in-the-usa-with-phil-clark-and-kevin-wyss#t=215) Guest Introductions: Phil Clark, Omitz, and Kevin Wyss
- [6:04](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging/2023-10-13-218-big-news-for-hydrogen-in-the-usa-with-phil-clark-and-kevin-wyss#t=364) Kevin Wyss: Converting Waste Plastics into Graphene and Hydrogen
- [13:31](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging/2023-10-13-218-big-news-for-hydrogen-in-the-usa-with-phil-clark-and-kevin-wyss#t=811) The Ultrafast Heating Process and Economic Viability
- [23:31](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging/2023-10-13-218-big-news-for-hydrogen-in-the-usa-with-phil-clark-and-kevin-wyss#t=1411) Phil Clark: Hydrogen Hubs, Electrolysis, and the Hydrogen Shot
- [30:15](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging/2023-10-13-218-big-news-for-hydrogen-in-the-usa-with-phil-clark-and-kevin-wyss#t=1815) Closing the Loop: Ammonia, Methanol, and Circular Economy
- [34:32](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging/2023-10-13-218-big-news-for-hydrogen-in-the-usa-with-phil-clark-and-kevin-wyss#t=2072) Scalability, Universal Matter, and Lifecycle Assessment

## Topics

- [Materials & manufacturing processes](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/materials-and-processes)
- [Energy & climate tech](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/energy-and-climate-tech)
- [Sustainability & circular products](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/sustainability-and-circularity)
- [Scaling production](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/scaling-production)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Omitz (company)
- Rice University (other)
- Ford Motor Company (company)
- Universal Matter (company)
- Specright (company)
- Center for Hydrogen Safety (other)
- NFPA (other)
- Argon National Lab (other)
- Enrow (company)

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