# 70 - Charlie Webb from Van Der Stahl Scientific

- Show: [People of Packaging](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging)
- Published: 2021-08-19
- Length: 38m
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging/2021-08-19-70-charlie-webb-from-van-der-stahl-scientific
- Listen: https://encase.substack.com/p/70-charlie-webb-from-van-der-stahl-714

## Summary

Charlie Webb, president of Van Der Stahl Scientific, discusses the rigorous validation and regulatory requirements of medical device packaging, explaining why the process is often more complex than the device development itself. He highlights the critical role of sterile barrier systems in preventing healthcare-associated infections, noting that over 150,000 deaths occur annually in the US due to non-sterile devices. Webb also addresses the challenge of hospitals using inadequate, unvalidated sealing equipment due to budget constraints, advocating for the adoption of microprocessor-controlled systems that ensure reproducibility and reliability.

## Chapters

- [0:01](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging/2021-08-19-70-charlie-webb-from-van-der-stahl-scientific#t=1) Introduction: Charlie Webb and Van Der Stahl Scientific
- [4:37](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging/2021-08-19-70-charlie-webb-from-van-der-stahl-scientific#t=277) Company Overview: Machinery, Labs, and Validation
- [7:06](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging/2021-08-19-70-charlie-webb-from-van-der-stahl-scientific#t=426) Cost Containment and the Binary Nature of Medical Reimbursement
- [13:12](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging/2021-08-19-70-charlie-webb-from-van-der-stahl-scientific#t=792) The Complexity of FDA 510(k) and Sterile Barrier Systems
- [19:20](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging/2021-08-19-70-charlie-webb-from-van-der-stahl-scientific#t=1160) Healthcare-Associated Infections and Real-World Workflow Challenges
- [25:58](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging/2021-08-19-70-charlie-webb-from-van-der-stahl-scientific#t=1558) The Problem with Unvalidated Hospital Sealers and Regulatory Pushback
- [32:27](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/people-of-packaging/2021-08-19-70-charlie-webb-from-van-der-stahl-scientific#t=1947) Personal Stakes: Family History and Webb's Own Surgery

## Topics

- [Medical & health devices](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/medical-devices)
- [Certification & compliance](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/certification-and-compliance)
- [Design for manufacturing & NPI](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/design-for-manufacturing)
- [Quality & yield](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/quality-and-yield)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Van Der Stahl Scientific (company)
- SPOT Radio (other)
- ISO 17025 (other)
- FDA (other)
- IOPP (other)

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- [Essentials of Sterilization for Med Device Professionals](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/global-medical-device-podcast/2023-01-26-essentials-of-sterilization-for-med-device-professionals) (Global Medical Device Podcast)
- [How Jon Speer Met His Most Frequent Guest: Mike Drues](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/global-medical-device-podcast/2020-08-26-how-jon-speer-met-his-most-frequent-guest-mike-drues) (Global Medical Device Podcast)
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