# Diving In with Robert Bogart

- Show: [Oxide and Friends](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends)
- Published: 2025-06-19
- Length: 1h 43m
- Episode: 21
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2025-06-19-diving-in-with-robert-bogart
- Listen: https://share.transistor.fm/s/21e23d3f

## Summary

Robert Bogart, a former Division I swimmer at the University of Texas and current engineer at Google, joins Bryan Cantrill and Adam Leventhal to discuss the parallels between elite college athletics and raising venture capital. Bogart recounts his 'Cinderella' story of being recruited by coach Eddie Reese despite late physical development, his redshirt freshman year, and breaking a world record on a relay. The conversation explores the psychological resilience, intrinsic motivation, and 'healthy disregard for the impossible' required to succeed in both high-stakes sports and hardware entrepreneurship at companies like Joyent and Oxide Computer Company.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2025-06-19-diving-in-with-robert-bogart#t=0) Introduction and Chime Banter
- [4:29](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2025-06-19-diving-in-with-robert-bogart#t=269) Bryan's Blog Post and the VC/Sports Analogy
- [7:24](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2025-06-19-diving-in-with-robert-bogart#t=444) Recruiting to Texas and Eddie Reese's Vision
- [15:20](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2025-06-19-diving-in-with-robert-bogart#t=920) The Redshirt Year and Academic Rigor
- [29:50](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2025-06-19-diving-in-with-robert-bogart#t=1790) Breaking the World Record and Drug Testing
- [42:53](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2025-06-19-diving-in-with-robert-bogart#t=2573) Overcoming Self-Doubt and the Anthony Ervin Race
- [53:47](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2025-06-19-diving-in-with-robert-bogart#t=3227) Applying Athletic Resilience to Startups and VC
- [1:02:05](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2025-06-19-diving-in-with-robert-bogart#t=3725) Parenting, Coaching, and the 'Naked Evaluation'
- [1:23:51](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2025-06-19-diving-in-with-robert-bogart#t=5031) Sleight of Hand Magic and Coding History

## Topics

- [Founder wellbeing](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/founder-wellbeing)
- [Careers & education](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/engineering-careers-and-education)
- [Fundraising & investors](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/fundraising)
- [Leadership, teams & culture](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/leadership-and-culture)
- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)

## Most relevant to

large enterprises

## Mentioned

- Oxide Computer Company (company)
- Google (company)
- Joyent (company)
- MetaWeb (company)
- Eddie Reese (other)
- Anthony Ervin (other)
- Michael Phelps (other)
- Dennis Ritchie (other)
- Bryan Cantrill (other)
- Adam Leventhal (other)
- Robert Bogart (other)

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