Shootout at the CNCF Corral

Oxide and Friends · 1 May 2025 · 1h 23m · Episode 15

What this episode covers

Bryan Cantrill, Adam Leventhal, Rachel Stephens, and Adam Jacob discuss the public dispute between Synadia and the CNCF regarding the NATS project, focusing on the failed attempt to withdraw the project and the resulting trademark conflict. The guests analyze the ambiguous language in Synadia's blog posts, the significance of the uncashed $10,000 check, and the CNCF's refusal to allow the project to leave with its trademark. They critique the CNCF's structure as an industry consortium rather than a true foundation, contrasting it with the Apache Software Foundation, and debate whether the CNCF should facilitate a graceful fork or litigate to retain the brand.

Mentioned

Companies
Synadia, Major League Baseball, Intel
Products
NATS, Linkerd, Kubernetes
Also
CNCF, Apache Software Foundation

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