# RIP Optane

- Show: [Oxide and Friends](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends)
- Published: 2022-08-09
- Length: 1h 43m
- Episode: 22
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2022-08-09-rip-optane
- Listen: https://share.transistor.fm/s/f2c3465b

## Summary

Brian, Adam, Tom, Ari, and other guests discuss the rise and fall of Intel Optane, analyzing why the technology failed to find traction despite its potential. They cover the technical mysteries of 3D XPoint, the strategic errors of secrecy and Intel-only lock-in, and the economic realities that allowed NAND flash to dominate. The conversation also touches on the future of memory interconnects like CXL and the enduring challenges of new physics in computing.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2022-08-09-rip-optane#t=0) Introduction and the Hype of Optane
- [2:49](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2022-08-09-rip-optane#t=169) History of Memory Physics and Alternative Technologies
- [14:55](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2022-08-09-rip-optane#t=895) Intel's Secrecy and the 3D XPoint Mystery
- [18:55](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2022-08-09-rip-optane#t=1135) The DIMM Form Factor and Intel Lock-in
- [24:27](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2022-08-09-rip-optane#t=1467) Economic Failures and the NAND Flash Dominance
- [1:06:41](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2022-08-09-rip-optane#t=4001) The Micron Partnership and Manufacturing Issues
- [54:13](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2022-08-09-rip-optane#t=3253) CXL and the Future of Memory Interconnects
- [1:36:43](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2022-08-09-rip-optane#t=5803) User Perspectives and Final Thoughts on Optane

## Topics

- [Chips, FPGAs & semiconductors](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/chips-and-fpgas)
- [Pricing, margins & unit economics](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/pricing-and-unit-economics)
- [Connected products & IoT](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/connected-products-and-iot)
- [Careers & education](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/engineering-careers-and-education)

## Most relevant to

large enterprises

## Mentioned

- Intel (company)
- Optane (product)
- Micron (company)
- CXL (other)
- NAND (chip)
- DRAM (chip)
- SAP HANA (product)
- VAST Data (company)
- Facebook (company)
- IBM (company)
- Oxide Computer Company (company)
- 3D XPoint (chip)
- Apache Pass (product)
- Gen-Z (other)
- HPE (company)

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- [The Circuit Ep:1 - Introductions](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-circuit/2022-12-21-the-circuit-ep-1-introductions) (The Circuit)
- [EV When? | PowerUp! | Optane and World Domination | Betamax](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2020-06-12-ev-when-powerup-optane-and-world-domination-betamax) (EE Times Current)
- [Intel Memory | ST SiC | Exclusive with Greg Travis on Boeing](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/ee-times-current/2019-04-05-intel-memory-st-sic-exclusive-with-greg-travis-on-boeing) (EE Times Current)
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- [Episode 78: What a Week in Semis! AMD! ARM! Qualcomm! Intel?](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-circuit/2024-08-02-episode-78-what-a-week-in-semis-amd-arm-qualcomm-intel) (The Circuit)

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