# The Future Of Work

- Show: [Oxide and Friends](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends)
- Published: 2022-03-08
- Length: 1h 57m
- Episode: 7
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2022-03-08-the-future-of-work
- Listen: https://share.transistor.fm/s/7daf8df8

## Summary

Bryan Cantrill and Adam Leventhal of Oxide Computer Company host a discussion on remote work, joined by Lucas Ives from Apple and Matt Campbell from VMware. They analyze the shift from office-centric models to hybrid and fully remote arrangements, highlighting how tools like Google Meet, Webex, and Microsoft Teams have evolved to support asynchronous communication and recorded meetings. The group debates the value of in-person 'pilgrimages' for team bonding against the benefits of remote flexibility, noting that while large tech companies like Apple and Google are mandating return-to-office policies, many employees prefer the autonomy and reduced commute of remote work. Key decisions discussed include Oxide's strategy of recording all meetings to create an searchable knowledge base and their commitment to periodic in-person gatherings despite the costs.

## Chapters

- [0:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2022-03-08-the-future-of-work#t=0) Introduction: Oxide team meetup and remote work context
- [6:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2022-03-08-the-future-of-work#t=360) Apple's Return to Office policy and Lucas Ives' remote experience
- [16:26](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2022-03-08-the-future-of-work#t=986) The value of backchannel chats and sidebar discussions in meetings
- [25:45](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2022-03-08-the-future-of-work#t=1545) Recording meetings and the impact on listening and retention
- [34:00](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2022-03-08-the-future-of-work#t=2040) Priorities for Oxide's in-person team meetup
- [43:50](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2022-03-08-the-future-of-work#t=2630) Remote employee 'pilgrimages' and the cost of travel
- [55:54](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2022-03-08-the-future-of-work#t=3354) Asynchronous work styles and decision-making processes
- [1:06:52](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2022-03-08-the-future-of-work#t=4012) Command and control vs. local subsidies in Return-to-Office mandates
- [1:13:58](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2022-03-08-the-future-of-work#t=4438) Timezone challenges and flexible work schedules
- [1:22:08](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2022-03-08-the-future-of-work#t=4928) Building rapport and the 'water cooler' effect remotely
- [1:32:59](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2022-03-08-the-future-of-work#t=5579) Remote work as a cost-saving measure vs. talent acquisition
- [1:42:40](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/oxide-and-friends/2022-03-08-the-future-of-work#t=6160) Onboarding and career development for new graduates in remote settings

## Topics

- [Leadership, teams & culture](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/leadership-and-culture)
- [Careers & education](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/engineering-careers-and-education)
- [Policy, trade & tariffs](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/policy-trade-and-tariffs)
- [AI & machine learning](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/ai-and-machine-learning)

## Most relevant to

early-stage companies

## Mentioned

- Oxide Computer Company (company)
- Apple (company)
- Google (company)
- Meta (company)
- Webex (tool)
- Google Meet (tool)
- Microsoft Teams (tool)
- Zoom (tool)
- Slack (tool)
- GitHub (tool)
- VMware (company)
- Microsoft (company)
- Nokia (company)
- SGI (company)
- HPE (company)
- Joyant (company)
- Siri (product)
- Twitter Spaces (tool)

## Related episodes from other shows

- [Creating a Better World of Work](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-manufacturing-executive/2022-09-06-creating-a-better-world-of-work) (The Manufacturing Executive)
- [How Hybrid Work Impacts Company Culture with Blentech CEO Dan Voit](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/manufacturing-happy-hour/2021-08-24-how-hybrid-work-impacts-company-culture-with-blentech-ceo-dan-voit) (Manufacturing Happy Hour)
- [HIBT Lab! Google: Sundar Pichai](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/how-i-built-this/2022-06-09-hibt-lab-google-sundar-pichai) (How I Built This)
- [Live for Your Drive](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/built-2-scale/2026-08-03-live-for-your-drive) (Built 2 Scale)
- [Conference Room Innovation](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/the-amp-hour/2023-01-30-conference-room-innovation) (The Amp Hour)

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