# 5G and IoT: What Will It Take for Them to Get Along?

- Show: [Moore's Lobby](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby)
- Published: 2024-07-02
- Length: 47m
- Episode: 13
- Page: https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2024-07-02-5g-and-iot-what-will-it-take-for-them-to-get-along
- Listen: https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/podcast/5g-and-iot-what-will-it-take-for-them-to-get-along

## Summary

Thomas Keller, Director of Platforms and Core Technology at u-blox, discusses the challenges of integrating low-power IoT devices with 5G networks. He explains that while 5G was designed for high capacity and low latency, the industry currently relies on LTE-based technologies like Cat M1 and NB-IoT for IoT, with 'RedCap' (Reduced Capability) devices emerging as a transitional 5G standard. Keller highlights the tension between network operators needing to support legacy LTE infrastructure and the long-term shift to 5G Standalone, noting that true low-power 5G IoT optimization will take several specification releases to mature.

## Chapters

- [0:09](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2024-07-02-5g-and-iot-what-will-it-take-for-them-to-get-along#t=9) Introduction and Thomas Keller's Background
- [6:26](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2024-07-02-5g-and-iot-what-will-it-take-for-them-to-get-along#t=386) The Evolution of Cellular Standards from 3G to 5G
- [17:22](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2024-07-02-5g-and-iot-what-will-it-take-for-them-to-get-along#t=1042) 5G Deployment: Non-Standalone vs. Standalone
- [24:28](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2024-07-02-5g-and-iot-what-will-it-take-for-them-to-get-along#t=1468) IoT Connectivity: LTE vs. 5G RedCap
- [33:02](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/moores-lobby/2024-07-02-5g-and-iot-what-will-it-take-for-them-to-get-along#t=1982) Future of 5G IoT and Satellite Integration

## Topics

- [Wireless & RF](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/wireless-and-rf)
- [Connected products & IoT](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/connected-products-and-iot)
- [Chips, FPGAs & semiconductors](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/chips-and-fpgas)
- [Careers & education](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/topic/engineering-careers-and-education)

## Most relevant to

established companies

## Mentioned

- u-blox (company)
- 3GPP (other)
- Cat M1 (product)
- NB-IoT (product)
- RedCap (product)
- LTE (product)
- 5G NR (product)
- URLLC (product)
- EMBB (product)
- GPS (product)

## Related episodes from other shows

- [#005: The Current Realities of Cellular IoT](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/coredump-sessions/2025-03-19-005-the-current-realities-of-cellular-iot) (Coredump Sessions)
- [Cellular IoT Best Practices | Teal's Robert Hamblet & Red Bison's Rob Tiffany | Internet of Things Podcast](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2024-02-06-cellular-iot-best-practices-teals-robert-hamblet-red-bisons-rob-tiffany-internet) (IoT For All Podcast)
- [The State of 5G | Telia Company’s Staffan Eriksson | Internet of Things Podcast](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2024-05-21-the-state-of-5g-telia-companys-staffan-eriksson-internet-of-things-podcast) (IoT For All Podcast)
- [Global 5G Coverage with IoT | Eridan's Doug Kirkpatrick | Internet of Things Podcast](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2023-05-16-global-5g-coverage-with-iot-eridans-doug-kirkpatrick-internet-of-things-podcast) (IoT For All Podcast)
- [What is Network Sunsetting? | Telenor IoT's Martin Whitlock | Internet of Things Podcast](https://hardwarepodcasts.com/podcast/iot-for-all-podcast/2023-01-19-what-is-network-sunsetting-telenor-iots-martin-whitlock-internet-of-things-podca) (IoT For All Podcast)

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